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TOPIC: Stirling Rink |
| jimbo f
February 28, 2009
9:11:40 PM
Entry #: 3069943
| No Change from the old one then -" a more suitable rink for the sport of ice hockey could have been developed"
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| Blackhawk
March 1, 2009
1:18:51 AM
Entry #: 3070086
| The rink is 6 curling lanes wide, it is nearly the same width as olympic rinks like Dundee and Braehead but as Ronnie mentioned it is not regulation length. It is only approx 6 metres short which is not much smaller than the Lagoon was.
It is a lot bigger than I expected as we were told it was slightly bigger than the old Stirling rink and until you skate on it you will not really get a feel for the ice pad size.
I agree with Ronnie, lot's of little things could have been avoided if consulation took place at the design stage, we did pass comments on the original design but they obviously didn't reach the decision makers.
The dressing rooms look nice with the light coloured walls and lovely beech coloured doors but I'm sure after a few hockey bags have banged into them we will make it look like any other hockey rink.
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| Geeooo
March 2, 2009
12:22:08 PM
Entry #: 3071098
| looks like the Lagoon, wish we had that pad back!!
we should find a wealthy Russian businessman to buy it back for us!!
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| Jobby
March 2, 2009
12:48:54 PM
Entry #: 3071112
| looks like Elgin rink, more to the point lets try and get through the group stages this year in the plate!
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| Daly
March 2, 2009
1:13:38 PM
Entry #: 3071123
| It looks decent enuf.. thats all you need in it? I would take an ice-rink like that in paisley.
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| Faitha
March 2, 2009
5:05:35 PM
Entry #: 3071389
| If their is ever the possibility of a new rink anywhere in the Glasgow, Renfrew, Paisly area, we make sure that we have our say early on in the design stage so the we get all the facilities, including a proper hockey pad, that we need!
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| Andy D
March 2, 2009
11:50:39 PM
Entry #: 3071877
| Unfortunately, without the money behind us, we get absolutely no say in the design ... and curlers have all the money!
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| Faitha
March 3, 2009
1:23:02 PM
Entry #: 3072363
| Not necessarily Andy! When a local authority approves the building of a specialist facility, such as an ice rink, it is put to a team of architects, normally their own internal department sometimes it is contracted out to a private firm. The design team, whoever they are, are tasked to design and over see the development and completion of the project. The may never have built an ice rink before and therefore they have to go out and find advice on the detailed intricacies of the project. It is up to any interested parties to make themselves aware of this and get their foot in the door at the initial stages.
As far as I can work out, the only people that got their foot in the door at the initial stages of the Stirling rink were the curlers from the old (private) rink. If the ice hockey fraternity hadn’t had the heads up their arses at the time and had managed to bring their influence to bear, the final outcome may have been more in our favour. As it was the developers were unaware of any ice hockey requirements until the project was three-quarters way complete. By that time it was too late to make any major changes – a lost opportunity for another top class rink, I would say!
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| Andy D
March 4, 2009
10:43:21 AM
Entry #: 3073741
| That's the way it SHOULD happen, but time and time again, just because an architect has never built a certain facility before, doesn't mean they will properly research the ins & outs.
The last venue I worked in was built by world renowned architects, and won barrow loads of awards for it's design. The architects had never built an entertainment venue before ... thus it was impractical, and almost useless.
Who was the architects? Anyone other than the Miller Group, who are really the only specialist sports centre architects in the UK, and it was bound to be a disaster.
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| Faitha
March 4, 2009
3:20:26 PM
Entry #: 3073948
| I totally agree with your statement in the opening paragraph of your last reply Andy! It is quite feasible that architects in their urgency, and probable professional arrogance, may not seek specialist advice in the early stages of a unique project – Then ultimately, produce a monument to ineffectuality, like you describe. That is why I say that us in the ice hockey world should, at least, try to make ourselves aware of any new ice rinks coming on stream and take aggressive, proactive steps to bring our influence to bear, especially at the very early stages of discussion and design, especially those built by local authorities! – It’s up to us!
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