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| moto-x-cross nut -
October 3, 2006
8:43:22 PM
Entry #: 1713283
| does any body know how many riders were in avondale this sunday passed?
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October 4, 2006
1:51:03 AM
Entry #: 1713753
| About 35 or 40!!!
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| moto cross fan
October 4, 2006
9:32:10 AM
Entry #: 1713985
| why were there so few riders from bell island there. maybe it is the condition of the track. to many rocks no topsoil and they don't want there bikes broke up.
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October 4, 2006
9:44:26 AM
Entry #: 1714017
| i spose that's why they stayed home, eh??
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| Rider
October 4, 2006
2:14:16 PM
Entry #: 1714603
| Track at Avondale was great!
Bell Island is where the bikes and riders have been broken up. Tyler broken arm and concussion, Butler in hospital broken bones in back, Megan Ring broken arm, Mark broken-arm, Andrew face first into the ground, I could go on but get the picture. The Bell Island Track is un-safe and many of the riders have been hurt there are still on the injured list. I will not ride there again.
I have been to many events at Avondale and i've seen one guy fall and hurt his finger, on another occassion i've seem a rider fall off an atv but no major injuries.
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| another rider
October 4, 2006
6:23:38 PM
Entry #: 1715079
| Are you for real? Bell island is unsafe but avondale is.Any motocross race is unsafe. People get hurt on bell island because people RACE on bell island.They RACE at bell island because it is fit to race on! you may get hurt but atleast you dont have to worry about cracking your skull on one of the million bolders that are on the avondale track. IF avondale track was fit to race people would get hurt there too. No one RACES, noboby gets hurt!
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| moto-x-cross nut
October 4, 2006
7:47:57 PM
Entry #: 1715219
| first off- who ever made the comments about all the people that are broke up - GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT- i heard that this guy mark, was not even on bell island when he dislocted his shoulder, and further more - when avondale track has the proper dirt on it - may be some of those motocrossers from bell island would show up - people who ride avondale - dont ride bell island - cause they cant!!all in all - i am glad to see motocross in avondale- keep up the work -
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| another rider
October 5, 2006
6:14:26 AM
Entry #: 1715815
| I race both tracks,and at the moment avondale sucks!!
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| Still another
October 5, 2006
7:04:26 AM
Entry #: 1715826
| Keep racin the Island and you could be sucking trough a straw in the hospital on your back!
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| mot-x-cross nut
October 5, 2006
7:55:36 AM
Entry #: 1715853
| race bell island and suck through a straw- wow - bell island unsafe - who had the smart ass idea to have a majic show and wresting in a steel cage and some guys who dont race bell island ,jump a school bus - unsafe - get a life - i guess you guys have to do something to get people out there!!!
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| moto cross fan
October 5, 2006
8:13:01 AM
Entry #: 1715863
| motocross riders get hurt in races because they are there to win. In order to win the concept is to go fast, which is what happens on bell island but cannot be done in avondale. any kind of racing is not without its dangers,cars,sleds or bikes.while the track in avondale is very tight it does not give any body the ability to race because of the ground cover and the rocks. nobody wants to drop their bike in avondale because of the great potential for damage and or injury. on another note while the free style is crazy give it up for the lunatics who do this at graet risk to themselves and there bikes. they do this because no body else can or is afraid to try.
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| bell island fan
October 5, 2006
11:02:05 AM
Entry #: 1716084
| I don't find avondale very interesting to watch were belle island is exciting.
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| Race Car Fan
October 5, 2006
11:20:52 AM
Entry #: 1716128
| look I understand that the track maynot be in the best of shape, but you have to remember that they only started it this year. Give it a break maybe next year will be better. Everybody who tries to do something exciting has to start at the beginning and grow from there. Or could this be the same as the race car drivers who want to promote another site over Avondale. Avondale has grown over the past 4 years and continues. I just think you need to give it a chance. I do enjoy watching the motocross at intermission and would like it to continue.
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| fan
October 5, 2006
11:21:15 AM
Entry #: 1716130
| in regards to the persons comments on the riders not wanting to race in avondale because they can,t go fast enough......BULLSHIT!!!!! the avondale track is more technical then they are able to drive, it takes more technical skill to race at their track, and the bell island woosies are not able to try!!!!!
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| fan
October 5, 2006
11:22:34 AM
Entry #: 1716132
| in regards to the persons comments on the riders not wanting to race in avondale because they can,t go fast enough......BULLSHIT!!!!! the avondale track is more technical then they are able to drive, it takes more technical skill to race at their track, and the bell island woosies are not able to try!!!!!
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| Avondale Rider
October 5, 2006
11:27:40 AM
Entry #: 1716152
| You want to go fast come to Avondale and lets see who is "FAST". Four laps on the Mx Track and four on the Clay Oval. I'll put up $250 you or your Fast Rider puts up $250 we'll ask the Track to put up $250...Winner Takes All.
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| moto cross fan
October 5, 2006
12:09:31 PM
Entry #: 1716239
| I agree with you that avondale has to grow and like most things will get better with time,only right now it is hard on the bikes especially for some of these race bikes that have a lot of money spent on them. i would like to see it suceed and would also like to see other tracks else were, maybe make it part of a summer series. as for the idiot who wants to put up $250.00 what does a clay oval have to do with motocross racing or do you not understand motocross.
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| No Idiot
October 5, 2006
2:26:26 PM
Entry #: 1716517
| It's called Flat Trackin Check out The AMA.com site in the USA.
Sounds good to me Why not Take the Challenge if you want to see FAST?
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| Racer Y
October 5, 2006
2:35:19 PM
Entry #: 1716532
| Why do we pay just $10 to ride at Avondale while Bell Island cost more than Double That!
Avondale pays out money to win Bell Island don't Pay Out maoney.
Where does the money go?
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| Rider
October 5, 2006
2:39:01 PM
Entry #: 1716544
| Bell Island Sucks!
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| moto-x-cross nut-
October 5, 2006
6:24:39 PM
Entry #: 1717030
| why dont the people who are willing to put up all this money at avondale - put the money towards fixing the track and placing the proper topsoil on it - money much better spent - i heard that bell island's money has bee spent on their track - and thats why it is so good - you dont see the bell island guys putting up money to bring riders to their track, they don't need to - unlike avondale - they could post $100,000.00 at avondale- and u still wont get any good riders to show up- here is a cheaper idea- FIX THE TRACK!!!!!!!!AVONDALE
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October 5, 2006
9:31:38 PM
Entry #: 1717345
| The Town Council built the Track on the Island?
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| Mx Fan
October 6, 2006
12:35:29 AM
Entry #: 1717635
| Who are these Good Riders you refer to?
Who are the Riders that want FAST?
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October 6, 2006
12:39:23 AM
Entry #: 1717644
| If it wasn't for Medi-care you would need the $100,000 to attend to the medical bills for the Riders that have been injured on Bell Island?
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October 6, 2006
12:46:20 AM
Entry #: 1717652
| To the mx nut...if the money was spent on the bell island track show us a financial statement.
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| another rider
October 6, 2006
6:06:00 AM
Entry #: 1717781
| The track on the island is non profit, the money goes back into the track and the communuty.Your 10 bucks at avondale goes into Burns pocket.
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October 6, 2006
6:15:33 AM
Entry #: 1717784
| A motocross track that is fast,long, and has big air jumps.Thats really dangerous! You'd never see a track like that on the mainland.Get a clue,theres no comparison between avondale and the island.Avondale is a great practice track, but if you want to race go to the island.I'll be at avondale for some practice sunday, see you there.
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October 6, 2006
6:21:48 AM
Entry #: 1717785
| To the rider that says bellisland sucks, we know who you are,the bike at the back of the pack!
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| MOTO CROSS FAN
October 6, 2006
10:33:49 AM
Entry #: 1717994
| flat tracking is not what motocross is all about.
the town concil of bell island has been supportive of the track but did not build the track. the track was built from money from motocroossnl ass. as well as many volinteers. most tracks that i have seen on the mainland do have fast sections as well as big jumps, just look at riverglade. avondale will not be fast even with the proper top coat. it could be faster with a few minor changes to the track to open it up a small bit. as for those that say it is a techincal track that is correct but all tracks take ability to ride, the same ability needed to ride avondale just in shorter spurts that will not let you get your speed up like in bell island. i am not saying that bell island is a better track it is a better finished track that still requires work, but not in the infant stages that avondale is in. i will say that if avondale does not address this issue you will not see many experienced racers there except for the ones that are riding for the money. it is a rough sport on the best of tracks i guess it is up to the indivual rider as to the risks that he wants to take
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| live for moto x
October 6, 2006
1:45:51 PM
Entry #: 1718405
| I agree. It is up to every indivdual
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| motocross fan
October 6, 2006
2:04:44 PM
Entry #: 1718442
| i have been to both tracks watching and the bell island one is built for the actuall stuff the motocross do and its a great track, avondale needs some work and it would be great to why dont you guys stop bitching and let the actuall riders decide what they want!, im sure only some people here drove at both and are great but still the dirts are different and avondale just needs work put into. ! bell island riders we love watching you at avondale and over to bell island you guys rock keep up the great work
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October 6, 2006
2:31:05 PM
Entry #: 1718518
| Bell Island is a permanent, full-time motocross track, isn't it? And isn't Avondale's motocross track built on the infield of the track, and has only been there for a while?
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| moto-x-cross nut
October 6, 2006
6:32:29 PM
Entry #: 1719130
| well- the bottom line here is that everybody agrees that avondale needs work- and bell island is awesome- i also heard that the whole goal of racing on the bell - was because the people who run the races do it 4 no money - all vol.time and any extra money is donated back to the community- good job motocross nl& lab.who ever is running avondale should ask those guys for some help on either redesigning your track to make it better for every one- or some info on how they do things so well-
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October 6, 2006
11:55:10 PM
Entry #: 1719543
| To moto cross nut you sound like you are more involved in the running than you are letting on. The riders on Bell Island don't get any winnings is that correct and they do in Avondale, is that correct. I guess the owner could stop paying in Avondale and donate the money to some charity as well. Then what would your motive be for putting down Avondale.
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October 7, 2006
2:04:38 AM
Entry #: 1719667
| Someone compares Bell Island big Jumps to Riverglade jumps.
Please remember that Brian House was killed on one of those big jumps.
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| Rider who pays his way.
October 7, 2006
2:31:41 AM
Entry #: 1719680
| If motocrossnl is donating to community shows us the paper work?
Who controls the money and who is siging on the Bank account?
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| dirt bike guy
October 7, 2006
4:08:39 PM
Entry #: 1720252
| brian house was not killed by or on a big jump at riverglade - he was hit by another rider on a flat part of the rack. to the person who wants to know where the money is going - why dont u ask the bell island mayor - he is always at the races - for that matter - how much money was paid out to riders at avondale - and was it worth it?
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| Rider
October 7, 2006
5:17:08 PM
Entry #: 1720337
| I didn't pay the Bell Island Mayor I paid you know who!
When are You going to produce the Records for all to see?
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| To Dr Dirt
October 7, 2006
5:24:08 PM
Entry #: 1720350
| House was too good to go down on a flat part of the Track. He went down off a jump, the approaching rider coming off the same jump couldn't see him and struck him. Same conditions exist on the Island, rider not able to see if another rider is down...invitation for disaster!
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| Rider at Avondale
October 7, 2006
5:27:27 PM
Entry #: 1720360
| I was happy with the money I received! Didn't get first but paid for my gas to get to Avondale.
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| moto cross fan
October 7, 2006
11:26:08 PM
Entry #: 1720744
| all that any buddy wants to see is for the sport to move ahead. it is an awesome spectator sport and for those involved i am sure it has the rush they are looking for. all i would like to see is the avondale track move forward, and maybe instead of paying out cash for winning spend it on the track. this needs to happen so more riders will support it, if not you will not see the numbers that you do see on bell island or gander
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| Rider
October 8, 2006
2:18:27 AM
Entry #: 1720961
| Avondale only opened mid season and has run more rider/laps than Gander and Bell Island combined!
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| moto cross fan
October 8, 2006
10:43:16 AM
Entry #: 1721169
| i would like to know were those stats came from as i have been in avondale when there was not enough riders to produce propper classes, this is not suposed to be a free for all but a properly organized divison of riders of different calibers. at the top of this forum it states that there was about 35 racers there when bell island has about 28 riders just in the open class. i am not bashing avondale but pointing out the differences and stating that some effort needs to be put into the track.
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October 9, 2006
12:14:33 AM
Entry #: 1722267
| sure
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| moto-x-cross-nut
October 9, 2006
5:13:44 PM
Entry #: 1723689
| judging from the pics on the message board- look as if there was only 5 bikes racing on sunday oct 8 - can anybody confirm how many were there?
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October 10, 2006
8:19:22 AM
Entry #: 1724767
| had to be more than 5
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| fan
October 10, 2006
9:53:35 AM
Entry #: 1724884
| if you guys at bell island give so much to the community , then tell me this, who are you paying your insurance to? i say this, you are two faced, you are back stabbers, and you are lyers!. there is no way that the town of bell island will pay out that kind od money to insure your track, but bern does, and he still manages to give prize money to us riders, i,ve listened to all your crap long enough, produce the records or reciepts and prove yourselves right or at least, start showin up to race in avondale! if you are all so much better then us poor un-sponsored riders, come and prove it on the track that BRIAN HOUSE designed, you guys couldn,t beat him in bell island when he was there, so why don,t you try and beat us on his track! at least i know i,m covered on berns track, but you,ve never proved i will be on yours! and where do you guys get the money that pays your annual trip to new brunswick every year, you,re all a bunch of selfish pricks!
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| moto cross fan
October 10, 2006
10:31:13 AM
Entry #: 1724950
| well i am sure if you contact the wabana boys and girls club you will be told how much money they recieved last year to give to local youth sport groups, it helped them raise money for there sports and was divided amongest them. as well was the funds raised from ther canteen service. this is not were this issue was meant to go but when you get an uniformed foul mouthed bag of air such as FAN it makes it hard to discuss any thing sensable because he knows it all. what do you think you are issured for or don't you sign a waiver. as for backstabbing and liars you need to explain what you mean and prove what you say.
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| moto-x-cross-nut
October 10, 2006
4:40:32 PM
Entry #: 1725900
| well- mr fan - do you even know why you sign a wavier- or better yet do you even know what you are talking about - why are so interested in where all the money goes from bell island - sounds like to me you are a business man or something - ask anybody who raced bell island this year and they will all tell u same thing ? oh by the way - the brian house memorial track was named that for a reason - this track too was designed - and BUILT BY BRIAN - get a life and stop crying-
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| moto cross fan
October 10, 2006
5:05:10 PM
Entry #: 1725980
| that's true brian howse was there from the moment the gear started to build the track till it was finished. he was instramental in the building along with the tractor guys.
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| moto fan and rider
October 10, 2006
10:52:39 PM
Entry #: 1726800
| i,ve just finished reading this whole page of post and i must admit i am very dismayed at all the bantering and display of ignorance on both parts, one pro for avondale and the other pro for bell island. i,ve raced on both and many more over the years, and have had my share of spills and broken bones, and i,ve also raced on much worse! from what i see, the avondale track was made from recommendations of a design submitted by the late Brian House, whom i understand used his own time to go out there and actually walk the whole area and marking the race course. i talked with the track co-ordinator while they were building the track, and i must admitt he seemed very sincere in trying to conform to Brians design, because he was a freind of his, and he wanted to finish it in Brians memory, but he also admitted that this would take more then a summer to finally complete properly! i was impressed with his honesty and also with the fact that he also use to race back in the time when we had a track in the white hills by robinhood bay. so in answer to those riders who like to impress their opinion of dislike of the avondale tracks readiness, i can understand your opinions but i also say to you, that if you would try to support the track as you do with bell island and show up to help with its maintianance as you do with bell island, then don,t you think that the tracks condition would have improved faster? bell island has been on the go for a while now, and it,s grown in leeps and bounds over the years , but it has had all your support in that time, i believe that if you all stopped fighting, and actually started to work together, then both tracks would be of benifit to every one. sure the avondale track is smaller and tighter to run, but it,s that difference that should make it a challenge to all of us, to strengthin our skills and abilities, and make you all the better riders! this fighting and in general name calling has to stop on both parts.
if you riders feel that you personally have had your holy grail of a track challenged, then you all need to get rid of that premodonna attitude and realise the benifit of having more then one track in the avolon and benifit from it professionally and personally! life is too short to be so stubbourne! i,m sure that if you would just try to get rid of a bit of that ego, and offer to partner up with each other, that we as riders all over nfld and lab will benifit from your maturity!
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