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| gopher
April 27, 2008
7:07:47 PM
Entry #: 2727848
| Ok
Who can tell me why this bat is starting out for bidding @ $250.00
SYNERGY SCX2 34 in 28 ounce bat
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| mike mansour
April 27, 2008
7:33:53 PM
Entry #: 2727897
| OG synergy smokes the ball. It will go for about $425. The don't make them anymore and even used are hard to find.
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| ARTIEKARATE
April 27, 2008
10:01:09 PM
Entry #: 2728116
| that's a picture of my new love !! I hit a bazookk today about 350 ft out of ravenwood . problably top 3 bats ever and the first batch is even better . I named her candy cuz the bombs I'm gonna hit are sweet !!! And yes I agree with mikey $450 used is about right . For a first batch anyway .
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| Uncle Mertog
April 27, 2008
10:36:26 PM
Entry #: 2728195
| Some say it is the best bat ever! Definately worth the price. 450.00 is a little steep in my opinion with so many other great bats out there today....but if you got the cash I say do it!
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| slezak3
April 28, 2008
5:07:52 PM
Entry #: 2729409
| Artie, just one question!?! A 350' bizzzzzomb, but how loud was the OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHH. The CROWE thought they heard it all the way at washington oak
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| lb4lb
April 28, 2008
6:50:39 PM
Entry #: 2729582
| jesus , ban that bat. No offense, but if Artie is hitting it out of Ravenwood then Riley or Keenan or Lemme or Charcie or Ernie might kill somebody..KILL....whats wrong with guys?.....uhmm...my bid is $475
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| Ryno
April 28, 2008
9:31:32 PM
Entry #: 2729902
| That is why I asked about the bat list several times during the talks of switching to USSSA. We can make our own league banned list.
A few years back when we banned Ultra II midseason after everyone had bought one, instead of doing it at thre start. That time we caught it before anyone was seriously injured and obviously the rulemakers did not learn anything.
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| Uncle Mertog
April 28, 2008
11:56:04 PM
Entry #: 2730115
| I wouldn't say that it is anywhere near an Ultra II...which of course is and should be banned, as should any of the senior bats....but the original synergy shouldn't qualify as a ban worthy bat.
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| Ryno
April 29, 2008
7:27:50 AM
Entry #: 2730263
| We shall see.
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| ARTIEKARATE
April 29, 2008
10:25:15 AM
Entry #: 2730363
| Merts right its not as good as the ultra 2 . Lets face it , it was cold too so the ball carried and i had perfect pitch and i got everything into it . Believe it or not at bp at clegg i get a couple out and thats with the freak limited so are we gonna ban that too . We knew the bats were gonna be better . These balls are going to be less than they are now when it gets warm.
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| Guapo
April 29, 2008
11:33:20 AM
Entry #: 2730492
| Take this particular bat out of it, the USSSA bat list has already been shown to make quite a difference in runs scored. There were 59 HR's hit this past Sunday and that's before PNA or VFW enter their stats. That's a shitload of HR's. I do agree the umpires did a great job and the money savings is a great thing for the league, but I don't understand why everyone thought it necessary to move from the ASA bat list for a Sunday morning rec league with small fields.
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| Shamrock
April 29, 2008
11:45:05 AM
Entry #: 2730519
| agreed...it's gonna be a joke.
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| Uncle Mertog
April 29, 2008
12:45:32 PM
Entry #: 2730652
| As I stated in the beginning of the year, many guys who were never capable of hitting home run balls will now be going for them, but I'm not blaming the bats for it...I'm blaming the players.
Last week for instance, we left three Home Runs in the first game unused. Why? There was no need to take them...we had a comfortable lead and base hits get the job done and guys who have been around know that. We don't hit solo shots or even two run homers unless it is by accident. We leave them available in case we need them in later innings or if we have the bases juiced and we're looking to put some runs up in the inning.
In fact many of my guys are still using ASA bats in many instances to ensure not hitting them out or they simply poke it to the opposite field to get on base. If guys are hitting more homeruns, you can't blame the bat...blame the player who can't keep his ego in check.
The second game we had them again in the later innings and Pub starting building some confidence, so a couple of my guys hit a few homers to score some runs and demoralize them, but keep in mind the homers were actually hit with an old "Freak" and ASA Synergy Flex and not with the new bats. Guys like Tommy Vincent, Donny Plante and Jim Desroisers all hit them with the old bats. Teams like PNA, Moutlon, VFW all hit the same amount of homers they did in the past so in all actuality it just seems to help the teams who don't have the big power guys of the teams I just mentioned. If anything it just adds a little balance to what used to be a lopsided homerun count for certain teams.
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| Uncle Mertog
April 29, 2008
12:53:19 PM
Entry #: 2730665
| Artie...don't make excuses why you were able to hit a bizzzomb out of Raven. It wasn't because it was cold or you just caught it right, we all know you have HUGE POWER, and we know where you got it.
And if the rest of you sissies want to hit like Artie, you'll call this number now and stop whing about the bats. The only thing juiced here in Coventry are the players...ya heard!
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| Ryno
April 29, 2008
1:35:50 PM
Entry #: 2730746
| Let's not incorrectly focus on home runs. Home runs do not create an unsafe environment. I have never seen a pitcher get hit in the face with a home run. The bats are making the ball come off faster regardless of what direction you hit it.
Maybe the On the Rochs team should move up to A ball with those great controled hit home runs whenever we want to swings. But most players in this league, even good ones, do not have the ability to have so much control of their hits.
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| Uncle Mertog
April 29, 2008
1:52:42 PM
Entry #: 2730773
| Ryno, that is another subject entirely. No one was talking about safety....they were talking about homeruns being ridiculous.
If you're talking about safety...then I agree with you to an extent. Guys like you, Knight, Ernie, Big Jim Desimone, Charcie and so on and so forth are definately dangerous with any bat, let alone the new ones. Pitchers definately have to pay more attention where they throw the ball. I'm sure you and many others have seen low and outside pitches that you laid off so you wouldn't kill the pitcher and took the strike. I agree many guys who haven't played as much ball as the guys I just mentioned have no clue where the ball is going when they swing, but we kept the same arc and the pitcher is allowed to take 6 more feet of space when pitching.
Thus far in the tournament and the first week of the season...I haven't heard any complaints about the new bats yet. Have there been any close calls or people getting bipped yet?
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| OAWMF
April 29, 2008
2:12:44 PM
Entry #: 2730799
| Ryno before getting married....
After
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| Ryno
April 29, 2008
5:21:05 PM
Entry #: 2731061
| Mertog I took a shot at your guys I hope they know I am joking around.
My point is that if little guys are hitting home runs now then the bats are more dangerous. If it were only home runs I give it my blessing and say hit as many as you can boys.
You are right about the big guys hitting. But even the best hitters screw up and hit middle now and then.
OAWMF it looks like my balls got bigger?
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| lb4lb
April 29, 2008
6:24:01 PM
Entry #: 2731166
| The voices of reason..Ryno and Guapo....I like Rob Raymond and I dont wont to go to his wake even one day earlier than I have to. Right now his liver is scheduled for failure July 2010....I dont know anything about the Easton Synergy in question ..you 5 times AWMF know best ..if a bat should be banned, then please get it banned. 'Cause if someone gets hurt..the batter, the sponsers, the league board members..you are all gonna getting sued.....
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| RyMan
April 29, 2008
6:57:39 PM
Entry #: 2731215
| The ASA bats can put a ball up the middle with enough gusto to cause an injury. Pitchers know that in every league at every level, and they pitch anyways. I don't remember there ever being an epidemic in this league befor the new bats of pitchers gettin beaned. Why would hotter bats make more shots up the middle? There's risk at every position, but that's why we have gloves and brains. A few went back at Bennie during our game sunday, and the bastard fielded them all. I don't think the new bats as opposed to the ASA bats are the difference between life and death if a pitcher takes one in the noggin.
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| RyMan
April 29, 2008
7:01:02 PM
Entry #: 2731218
| The ASA bats can put a ball up the middle with enough gusto to cause an injury. Pitchers know that in every league at every level, and they pitch anyways. I don't remember there ever being an epidemic in this league befor the new bats of pitchers gettin beaned. Why would hotter bats make more shots up the middle? There's risk at every position, but that's why we have gloves and brains. A few went back at Bennie during our game sunday, and the bastard fielded them all. I don't think the new bats as opposed to the ASA bats are the difference between life and death if a pitcher takes one in the noggin.
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| Fat Chicks Rule
April 29, 2008
7:08:18 PM
Entry #: 2731230
| You should have seen the shot that went back at Noel Matthews when we played the dub. Pete Ianelli tried to go yard and didn't get under it. He caught the ball right next to his face. Six inches to the left and he loses an eye for sure at the very least.
Let's just be a little more careful out the gentlemen.
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| Dutilly
April 29, 2008
7:26:41 PM
Entry #: 2731253
| Mr nice guy your right that shot almost took his head of but fyi he used a 1998 easton redline single wall bat at that at bat because i put beer on the line that he couldnt hit it out with that bat..... he actually used it for 3 at bats
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| gopher
April 29, 2008
7:34:57 PM
Entry #: 2731264
| HI BOB
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| M.C.B
April 29, 2008
7:38:27 PM
Entry #: 2731268
| I know I'm older than most of you guys. God Bless him, but if you remember back when Leo got hit in the head, it was before all the new bats, it happens. It isn't easy being a pitcher or a third baseman now. I've seen a guy lose an eye after getting hit with a ball off a doctored Miken, a painted Ultra II, when I was in Florida in the beginning of this year. Bats are out of control, but we have to play with what we can. There is always openings up in the wooden bat league in Lincoln. A totally different game. Scores are 5-4, 3-2, etc. But if a bat is legal what can you do.....put on a cup and a mouthguard and hope for the best.......that is why I play in the outfield. My smile sucks and I can't find a cup small enough.
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| Hinske
April 29, 2008
8:01:12 PM
Entry #: 2731292
| ALL THIS TALK ABOUT USING THESE GIRLY BATS COME PLAY WITH ME I SWING AN ASA SYNERGY AND BET MONEY THAT I CAN COMPETE WITH YOU BOYS AND YOUR SOUPED UP BATS.
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| ARTIEKARATE
April 29, 2008
8:53:40 PM
Entry #: 2731386
| wut up hinske you got the red one , blue one or grey and blue . The only difference between my OG and your ASA wip is mines hot outa the wrapper yours is gonna take a 1000 swings toget real tasty but yours will last longer . The bat companys when given the restrictions came up with ways to make great bats that start out at 98mph bot end up way over that . This is the reason ASA is dropping there restriction to 91 or 92 I forgot . il put a guy on my night league teams grey and blue synergy against any bat . It pretty sick . One other thing wait til it gets warm these balls are heat sensitive . The HRs will go down . Guapo look at most of the matchups this week . Just because its a HR doesnt mean it went over the fence . LB4LB come on man you always look for the best bat .Guys like pete can hit the ball hard with a wooden bat . Two balls went up the middle allday against A- my 7 hopper with the freak limited and Petes screamer with the SUPER HOT REDLINE not to defend him but the bat almost slipped outa his hand . We weren't in a close game so we stayed outa the middle . They hit like 6. This isn't your average REC league anymore . Come on Kirby Murphy plays Coventry ball .
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| Littleguy
April 29, 2008
10:03:47 PM
Entry #: 2731502
| Ok here is the proof that these bats will make a difference. Whne my short little fat ass starts jacking them out of fields then yes they make a difference. I can count on 2 fingers how many Biiizzoooombs as Artie would say that I had hit. Artie and PNA witnessed one last year at Fosters but the wind was blowing very hard out towards center! The bombs that I have witnessed so far this year at the tourney and the first week is from the same MONSTERS that hit them out reguarly! So until The Mighty Midget here starts jacking them out a bat is a bat. You still gotta know how to hit the ball! I still would def shit myself if one came up the middle on me! I am not afraid to admit it!
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| Smitty
April 29, 2008
10:31:26 PM
Entry #: 2731560
| FINALLY!!!!!!!! WE ARE NOT "JUST SUNDAY MORNING" ANYMORE!!!
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| Uncle Mertog
April 29, 2008
11:53:10 PM
Entry #: 2731692
| Ryno...I know you were just fucking with me.
I will say that thus far I have not seen a discernable difference in the frequency of balls hit up the middle, nor have I seen a major difference in the frequency of Home Runs or balls hit any harder than in the past.
As I stated in my earlier post, the hardest ball I've seen hit this year so far was off an Easton Synergy Flex (The Blue and Grey) which is legal in ASA. In addition Artie is right, the ASA bats are no where near as hot out of the wrapper as their USSSA counterparts, but the more they break in the hotter they get. I have the Synergy and it gets hotter and hotter each game...just like the original freak...it's never hotter than just before it breaks. (As Hodde found out at the tournament)
Like Artie said, he and his crew are not going up the middle on anyone unless it is a tight game against the upper level teams. (Barring of course the occasional accidental slip)
I'm sure you and the rest of your PNA brethren won't do it either, nor will Moulton, nor will most guys. Shooting the middle on the Stallyns just doesn't make any sense. No one here is out to hurt anyone else and I believe the majority of guys in this league are decent and we all realize we have families to support which comes ahead of winning. That being said...I sincerely doubt that there will be many reports of pitchers getting bipped.
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| ARTIEKARATE
April 30, 2008
8:02:53 AM
Entry #: 2731873
| On i final note i forgot that it is JUST SUNDAY MORNING SOFTBALL !!!!
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| Hinske
April 30, 2008
10:52:54 AM
Entry #: 2732073
| I second that no reason to get anyone killed after all artie says its sunday mornin. I had a few balls come back at me against del padre and it was definatly a lot hard this year than last year. I dont think anyone wants to hurt anyone.
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| ARTIEKARATE
April 30, 2008
11:39:05 AM
Entry #: 2732182
| somebody post a your a homo picture please !! you play in the most cimpetetive night league in the state with the same bats , you just gotta be ready for it on Sundays now . oh shit no drinking for fino on saturday to think I almost called you to pitch in the B NIT this weekend .
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| RyMan
April 30, 2008
12:15:39 PM
Entry #: 2732249
| Hey, Artie. Where and when are some of these high level tournies? I'd love to catch some of these games. Let me know on here or shoot me an email. ryman@tmail.com
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| Hinske
April 30, 2008
12:22:50 PM
Entry #: 2732264
| i know it would be for your spot in the batting order anyway hahahhahaha
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| hodde
April 30, 2008
4:00:41 PM
Entry #: 2732668
| no one should shoot middle whether its a close game or a blow out, we all need to go to work mondays. i dont think we have any retirees yet, who are loaded. i know lb4lb is awfully close
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| Guapo
April 30, 2008
5:25:10 PM
Entry #: 2732861
| Artie, was that homo post directed at me? Not that I really give a shit if it was. It's strange, the guys that want to play with lesser bats are considered the sissies???
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| nate8
April 30, 2008
5:33:08 PM
Entry #: 2732877
| Speaking as a guy who has pitched for 12 years now.I would just like to chime in and say that bats have been hot for years.If a guy is a great hitter he is gonna rip it off any bat.I have to agree that when a team is up by a dozen and they still shoot box it pisses me off but any other time I expect it.If you are playing in any league or tourney and your team has a 2 run lead,expect the other team to rip it at you.The biggest hole on the field is right behind you.I have only seen a handful of guys do aim at me on purpose but I was running my mouth so.....
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| lb4lb
April 30, 2008
7:14:58 PM
Entry #: 2733028
| Hinske yappin.. ( everyone knows Hinske can smack a ball, no?)...Dumonti playing Fiskey at the keyboard..Artie hits one 350,...Little Guy is back on the board.... 85 posts, 100's of views...and its only WEEK ONE! Save a little fellas...you're gonna run out of postin gas by mid-season. All the talk is about homeruns..did anybody make a great catch? I swear I would pay admission to watch Ian Smith play the outfield. Kendra and Gorman too. I would pay to watch Artie play third against Crowe..but for an entirely different reason. Kinda like the same reason we slow down when passing a car wreck....
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| Smitty
April 30, 2008
11:23:34 PM
Entry #: 2733391
| pna stats in...add 13 dingers making it 72 if guapos 59 was an accurate count
but like someone said there were 6 in my games and 3 were inside the park
still waiting on stats from
vfw
del padre
stallyns
ccfire
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| RyMan
April 30, 2008
11:44:39 PM
Entry #: 2733406
| Im going to do a small experiment this weekend to see how much different the USSSA bats perform than the ASA bats. I have an ASA miken NRG and a Utrip one. Both 28oz, balanced weight. This weekend at bp I'll take 5 pitches with each and we'll see how much difference they make for me. I will be doing said experiment at hunters crossing with the short porch in left, and me being a right handed hitter. No ones gonna care, but im gonna enjoy doing it.
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| Hinske
May 1, 2008
10:15:31 AM
Entry #: 2733767
| EASY NOW BIG FELLA CANT WE JUST HAVE A LITTLE FUN AT WITH ARTIE NOW AND THEN. DIDNT KNOW YOUD TAKE IT TO HEART. RYMAN I KNOW DEL PADRE WILL HAVE A BUNCH OF HOMERS TO ADD THEY HIT A FEW OFF ME LAST WEEKEND.
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| Guapo
May 1, 2008
12:42:42 PM
Entry #: 2734047
| Ian, inside the park Hr's counted last year too. Also, in order to hit an inside the park HR you most likely have to hit it over an OF head. I talked to Broz last night at Clegg and even he was amazed at how the balls were flying out. He claimed it had to do with the brand of USSSA ball we were using. Anyway, the scary part is that he didn't hit any and he has as much power as anyone. There were several Clegg/Coventry guys at the field last night and all agreed the ball is jumping. We play you tonight and I cannot make it. My daughter has a game at 6:00. Sucks
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| Smitty
May 1, 2008
1:33:40 PM
Entry #: 2734131
| i was just pointing out that not all home runs are the typical bombs in this league. you can beat a RF with a ground ball and its 4 bases
have fun watching softball instead of playing it
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| Mac
May 2, 2008
10:58:07 AM
Entry #: 2735488
| i dont have a problem with the bats or balls utrip umps are far better and makes it more fun. when we play against teams like the stallions and guys like that avoid the middle at all cost no need to hurt anyone some people can feild the middle some cant. bennie is one of the best pitchers to feild the middle and he misses sometimes he took a shot off the knee the other nite at clegg against dynamic its part of the game but it can b avoided if up big or down big. like everyone says we gotta go to work.
and smitty ya u acn definately hit the ball in front of a RF and get an inside the parker, just wish i woulda stayed at third im home cuz ray blocked the plate and my knee is swolen up to a beach ball. thanks ray you owe me a few beers haha
o ya and ARTIE HITS BIZOMBS haha
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| hodde
May 2, 2008
3:03:26 PM
Entry #: 2735900
| lb4lb pete made an awesome catch to rob shamrock of a homerun last week. he will be on my over 40 team thats for sure and by the way he is 51 he told me
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| lb4lb
May 2, 2008
3:12:53 PM
Entry #: 2735917
| I knew it..that Pete guy is the best. And he is all out, all the time. 51..amazing. He would be the best outfielder on the Coverty '99 team never mind the over 40 team
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