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TOPIC: HR +2 rule |
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| Nate_8
February 12, 2011
1:21:11 PM
Entry #: 3653168
| What is the result of the vote on the HR +2 rule?
Last I heard we were going to hold a home run derby, winner gets to pick what happens with the rule... oh wait, that wouldn't work very well would it!?
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| CantHit10
February 14, 2011
1:21:27 PM
Entry #: 3653914
| It is a great rule. Leave it like it was last year.
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| Faux
February 15, 2011
10:45:09 PM
Entry #: 3655180
| Leave the rule..................Don't fall into stupid you might not get out !!
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| moulton
February 17, 2011
8:27:57 PM
Entry #: 3656617
| Ok,I'm perplexed at the lack of chat on this topic. What does everyone think?
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| Ethos71
February 18, 2011
12:23:19 PM
Entry #: 3656937
| Playing in a game where the boys just keep hitting bombs is boring. Playing in a game where guys hit bombs and just go to first base is also boring. Change the bats or get bigger feilds.
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| Faux
February 23, 2011
7:06:53 AM
Entry #: 3659866
| Anyone know where I can get a good set of adjustable dumbbells or should I just buy an illegal bat?
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| Labtech
February 27, 2011
11:19:31 PM
Entry #: 3663345
| Charlie Sheen, showing a sympathetic streak, just sent our league two spare porn stars and two briefcases full of cocaine. Does that count as a plus 2?
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| MBA89
February 28, 2011
10:27:38 PM
Entry #: 3664382
| Who's more delusional: Uarms, Sheen or Gaddafy?
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| Daump
March 8, 2011
12:29:51 PM
Entry #: 3670626
| Why have the rule? I could never hit more than 4 per year. The truth is that my not taking batting practice before games was born of years of wrecking my confidence in BP. That is no joke, drinking is easier.
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| Ethos71
March 9, 2011
11:14:37 PM
Entry #: 3672193
| so wow do i feel better..everyone should have a chance to hit one out.
NO KIDDING
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| moulton
March 22, 2011
8:53:19 PM
Entry #: 3682511
| I'm not saying I'm daring others to top this, but I drank at least 500 beers during the season last year, and only hit 3 home runs.
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| Harry Package
March 23, 2011
10:46:58 AM
Entry #: 3682914
| ha, ha, that's over 50 litres of beers per dinger... and alot of fruitless pissing !
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| moulton
April 7, 2011
11:06:16 PM
Entry #: 3696419
| hit em with your purse (at Crosby) next time its quicker and more amusing
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| Birkey
April 13, 2011
11:01:04 AM
Entry #: 3700709
| We need no further proof that the balls were juicy during the playoffs last year than watching the Arms jack the ball over the fence at Crosby.
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| CantHit10
April 24, 2011
2:46:18 PM
Entry #: 3709693
| I am not sure about the new rules with running out home runs. As I have whined about before I think it is silly to have to run them out.
We came to an agreement in another league that I played in, that the batter only had to run to first and the baserunners could just walk to the dugout.
Sounds good?
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| Tarheel
April 24, 2011
6:48:46 PM
Entry #: 3709799
| Sounds ridiculous! If you're good enough to hit it out then you're good enough to run the bases.
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| Nate_8
April 3, 2013
7:35:13 AM
Entry #: 4043835
| I had to do some digging to find my old post from a few years ago. What is the deal with the poll on the front page? Don't tell me we are thinking of changing this rule again. The current rule works. A walk!
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| jamie b
April 3, 2013
4:23:02 PM
Entry #: 4043979
| My opionion may not be worth much considering I didn't even hit one last year, but if it's so easy to hit one out then why can't those same guys be forced to try to keep one in the park? Forcing someone to hit the ball in play encourages strategy and creates a play having to be made in the field.
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| LEFT-RIGHT-OUT
April 4, 2013
10:15:17 AM
Entry #: 4044142
| Jamie, that opinion is waaaay too sensible to gain any traction.
Even though the executive has detemined that the league needs a +2 rule...you can't expect our "great" players to keep the ball in the park. They have to hit it out! It may adversely affect their world-class home run stroke.
So, why do we have a rule?
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| Labtech
April 5, 2013
7:34:30 AM
Entry #: 4044456
| Fellas, explain the logic in your statements? You state that you did not hit a home run last year and because of that you want to penalize the few guys that actually hit long balls over the fence. Sounds like a case of jealousy to me.
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| LEFT-RIGHT-OUT
April 5, 2013
8:43:59 AM
Entry #: 4044484
| Explain, indeed! We have a +2 rule because the executive has deemed it to be necessary.
The question is what to do with a ball hit where it ain't supposed to be hit...sounds like a foul ball to me!
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| Jets6400
April 5, 2013
2:44:24 PM
Entry #: 4044592
| Are you suggestion a strike? The poll on the front page seems to put your opinion in the high minority.
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| Fureza
April 6, 2013
11:58:02 AM
Entry #: 4044750
| How about a double? No need to penalize someone for accomplishing something a few people can do.
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| LEFT-RIGHT-OUT
April 7, 2013
11:17:03 AM
Entry #: 4044932
| It isn't a penalty! It's a reward!
The execs have determined that it is better for our league to limit the amount of home runs in order to speed up the games and to help in making the games more competitive for ALL. Mission accomplished!
Yet, this topic is still out there. Do we NEED to change the rule...NO!
However, it STILL makes no sense to REWARD a guy for hitting it where we, as a league, don't want him to do.
That's what we usually call a foul ball...
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| Empress Ruler
April 7, 2013
5:41:42 PM
Entry #: 4044980
| I am a bit confusedare you suggesting that the rule should not be changed as the lion share of people responding to the poll suggest?
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| HR Leader
April 8, 2013
11:02:14 AM
Entry #: 4045128
| We do not need a plus two home run rule?
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| LEFT-RIGHT-OUT
April 8, 2013
11:09:12 AM
Entry #: 4045132
| I've seen the poll results. It is clear that the majority doesn't want to change the rule. That's why we have polls...
It, however,doesn't change the fact that we are rewarding a guy for doing something we don't want him to do.
I'm not trying to change your opinion, just expressing mine.
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| jamie b
April 8, 2013
11:21:31 AM
Entry #: 4045143
| Labtech, believe me it has nothing to do with jealousy. If that were the case I wouldn't have advertised the fact that I didn't hit one. Just last year by the way. My opinion simply reflects the idea that it shouldn't be an issue to have to keep it in the park. Secondly, to steal a phrase from Patrick Roy, I can't hear your comments about jealousy, "because my championship rings are blocking my ears" - 7 cups Labtech. How many you got???
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| Matches
April 9, 2013
9:32:14 PM
Entry #: 4045687
| I'm not Willy Wonka, I don't sugar coat crap. If someone hit the ball over the fence they should not be penalized. The majority of the league has the same opinion.
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| Ryno
April 10, 2013
3:27:18 PM
Entry #: 4045942
| In regards to the dinger plus rule......Either you run the day or the day runs you. The poll apparently holds no water.... Our opinion does not count.
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| Woodsucks
April 11, 2013
11:13:57 AM
Entry #: 4046193
| The weak people that can’t hit HR are the ones that created and maintained this rule.
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| jamie b
April 11, 2013
2:05:55 PM
Entry #: 4046260
| You're so ignorant Woodsucks. The rule was created to speed the game up. In some leagues if a homerun is hit they just walk off the field and don't even go to first. Who created that rule? Guys that can't hit homeruns? Gimme a break. To be honest, I could care less if the rule is in place. I literally don't care either way. I only shared my opinion because as much as you think guys should be able to hit as many as they want I think those same - supposedly "strong" - hitters should be able to keep it in the park. Or should I be led to believe they are just so far superior that they can't help but pound the ball out of the humungous Crosby park?
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| Seyms
April 12, 2013
12:09:22 PM
Entry #: 4046594
| well said Burt.. woodsucks, that comment is bulls*%T
calling people weak because they don't hit it out of crosby is pathetic in my opinion, much more so than calling people pathetic that dont hit it out of crosby.
in my opinion the rule is in place to keep the game competitive and speed it up, not to have guys chase the ball because people cant do anything else but hit fly balls that are caught at almost any other park aside from carlton. but im sure you've been hitting JACKS far longer than i've been in the league.
i may be in the minority that thinks this rule is there to keep games close, and as the poll indicates it should stay the same if anything.
i guess you've never played a, b or c ball in a SPN tournament, where there is only a 2 homerun rule per game, period...guess all those ball players are pretty weak too when they actually have to find a hole in the defence to get on base..
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| Bud Wiser
April 13, 2013
9:52:38 AM
Entry #: 4046833
| If the rule is intended to speed up the game why do we wait so long to start a new inning? Most outfielders take their sweet time walking out to the field, pitchers want to warmup and the infielders need to throw the ball around. Hitters take time getting into the box. It is all a waste of time. Ignorant people are more likely to believe they are brilliant, while intelligent people are more likely to underestimate themselves. Get rid of the one sided rule and let all HR hitters go back to the bench, they do not need to waste time going around the bases. Do all of the above and the precious time will not be wasted.
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| Brynee
April 14, 2013
7:43:32 AM
Entry #: 4047027
| Home run hitters are often treated like children but expected to act like adults. Chew on that statement and you will figure it out.
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| Woodsucks
April 15, 2013
2:10:24 AM
Entry #: 4047247
| Here's my pinky, here's my thumb, here's my peace sign minus one. This is just my opinion on this rule that seems to not be wanted by the overwhelming majority of players. You guys are beautiful no matter what they say, words can't bring you down.
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| Pperrier
April 16, 2013
12:46:50 PM
Entry #: 4047769
| No plus two home run rule.
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| That.Guy
April 18, 2013
8:59:15 AM
Entry #: 4048379
| I hate to beat this thread to beyond death, but I've been told the rule has changed? Now +2 Home Runs are back to Strikes not walks.
If I'm wrong I don't mean to start anything, just wanted to confirm what I heard.
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| Scottie's
April 21, 2013
7:56:42 AM
Entry #: 4049101
| Any result of a plus two long ball is for the weak. Never be afraid to try something new. Remember, amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic. I say no to this rule.
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| Uarms
April 22, 2013
10:07:36 AM
Entry #: 4049403
| A Random thought: Never thought I'd see the day when the Arms talk is less than 2+ HR rule. What's wrong with this forum?
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| MBA89
April 23, 2013
5:35:35 PM
Entry #: 4049943
| Interesting, the above was clear, concise, pretty much error free - who stole Uarms password?
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| Scottie's
April 29, 2013
8:00:27 AM
Entry #: 4051508
| I won't say wear a helmet or body armour when a power hitter has two strikes, balls will be SMASHED back up the middle at the pitchers. Shouldb a treat!..
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| That.Guy
April 29, 2013
8:49:09 AM
Entry #: 4051523
| Stay Classy Scottie's....Don't get your way, threaten by shooting box. Why don't you get a box of Scotties® and go whine about it elsewhere.
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| CantHit10
May 2, 2013
4:51:09 PM
Entry #: 4053092
| Why did we change this rule?
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| Hr Leader
May 3, 2013
12:34:13 PM
Entry #: 4053383
| A strike for a long ball is WRONG!
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| Scottie's
May 5, 2013
8:33:51 PM
Entry #: 4053911
| Hey that_ guy,
Just stating the obvious facts, nothing to do with class. I hope we are all aware of the pitchers. We do not need any injuries to the brave pitchers of the league.
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| Blumpkin
May 7, 2013
7:01:34 AM
Entry #: 4054369
| I would have to agree with you there Scott. Unfortunatley you run into these people all over the place. People with the need to compensate for their own weaknesses and inadaquate personalities. Makes me chuckle.
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| Cashman
May 8, 2013
5:42:44 AM
Entry #: 4054755
| It felt good to be out throwing the ball around for the first baseball (ok, slo-pitch) game of the year, perfect night for it too! This rule does not work at Milliken and is pretty silly.
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| That.Guy
May 8, 2013
11:35:34 AM
Entry #: 4054873
| How can a rule NOT work at Milliken? Very confused. Are you saying because Milliken isn't the child-sized diamond Crosby is people should be more deserving of a home run there?
In any case, the rule is either effective or it doesn't come into effect at all. It either speeds up the game by limiting the home runs by a team and the time it takes to get the ball, etc. or there is no impact the rule can't simply NOT work.
Has any game drastically been impacted by the home run rule or are you guys all just arguing for the sake of it? I mean, has there ever really been a situation where you guys have said "oh it's too bad we're +2....a double is really going to hurt us right now"? Chances are if people are swinging for the fences they're going to fly out anyway.
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| Scottie's
May 9, 2013
1:04:15 PM
Entry #: 4055387
| STUPID RULE!
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| Faux
May 10, 2013
11:37:22 AM
Entry #: 4055745
| Agreed!
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| Knight
May 13, 2013
8:10:41 AM
Entry #: 4056398
| This rule is made for the weak players and maintained by the feeble.
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| Gwat
May 16, 2013
7:48:59 AM
Entry #: 4057515
| The hardest thing to see is what is in front of your eyes. Think about it.
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| Anchor
May 17, 2013
7:57:20 PM
Entry #: 4058085
| bad rule
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| HR Leader
June 2, 2013
10:05:47 PM
Entry #: 4062402
| Some decisions are made as blessings, and others come in your life as lessons. Has this dumb rule changed anything ??
What a wast of time.
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| Brynee
June 3, 2013
5:59:14 PM
Entry #: 4062674
| The rule has not changed the results of our games so far. Still do not like it.
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| Rockstar81
June 4, 2013
10:44:22 AM
Entry #: 4062847
| The ball does not seem to be traveling as much as last season. I would guess the dingers are down this year.
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| GOAT!
June 5, 2013
8:48:18 AM
Entry #: 4063176
| This rule should be reversed back to what it was last year. This rule should've been voted amongst the league during the banquet and not the committee of few guys. Haven't heard anyone during a game say its a good rule, all you here is that this rule stinks and it's ruining the game for certain players and guys saying they might look into other leagues.
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| TBH™
June 5, 2013
9:25:14 AM
Entry #: 4063198
| They should take the rule one step futher, adopt ASA and NSA rules where 2+ home runs are an out. Obviously there are quite a few powerful hitters in this league watching 15 bombs go out over Crosby in a game is boring for everyone on the field. Make it an out and move the game along keeping both teams in the game. If you are 2+, put the ball in play, smash a line drive. I agree with the last poster, second best option would be a single.
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| GOAT!
June 5, 2013
9:57:48 AM
Entry #: 4063209
| Easy to say to hit a double or a single, but if you hit line drive ropes that go out of either diamond than there's a difference. Sure the last post was coming from a vet or a weaker hitter lol, as well as the other leagues you mentioned don't play in small diamonds like Crosby so you really can't compare.
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| Gimme
June 5, 2013
10:00:57 AM
Entry #: 4063211
| According to 1goblue1, guys are looking into going to other leagues because of our HR rule?? I say cya!!
BTW, good luck to those guys… most other leagues have the same rule as us!
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| GOAT!
June 5, 2013
10:16:44 AM
Entry #: 4063212
| Obviously if the rule is bothering a large percentage people i. the league, then it should be revisited. Clearly Gimme would prefer good players to leave, probably so he could bring his sister to play to make it more competitive for him....lol, just joking. But seriously this rule should be reviewed at the end of the year.
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| Jim_the_Ump
June 6, 2013
3:07:15 PM
Entry #: 4063694
| Just as a follow up, this is what I know about other leagues around our area (either from me umpiring in that league or in talking to other umpires):
- Markham Men’s Slo-Pitch League (MMSPL): +2 HR Penalty: Strike
- York Region Slo-Pitch League (YRMSPL): A Division +2 HR Penalty: Walk B/C/D Divisions: Max 4 HR’s Penalty: Out
- Aurora Men’s Slo-Pitch League (AMSL): +2 HR Penalty: Out
- Claremont Men’s Slo-Pitch League (CMSPL): +2 HR Penalty: Out
So to Gimme’s point, I’m not sure why players would think about leaving the USPL, as most other leagues have similar homerun limitation rules. Some are more penalizing than others, but I think our league rule is pretty fair.
(As a side note I heard about some leagues and associations in the US adopting an “Inning-Ending Out” as the penalty for hitting a HR if over the limit. You could be the first batter of an inning, but if you hit a HR when over the limit, your team is done for that inning. Now THAT seems a little harsh!)
Anyway, have fun and play safe everyone.
Jim_the_Ump
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| Barnstormer
June 6, 2013
5:01:16 PM
Entry #: 4063742
| Thanks Jim, glad to see a voice of reason jump into the conversation.
To add to that, in pretty much all tournament ball the rules are also much harsher - you'd be hard pressed to find a league out there that REWARDS you for hitting a home run when you're already at the max.
The argument that people who like the new rule must be shitty hitters just cracks me up - all of the best hitters I know of in this league can hit the ball to all fields and hit a single just as easily as they can jack one over the fence.
If all you can do is pull can of corn fly balls that go out at Crosby, you deserve to be out. I'd say it's generous that we only give a strike instead. The rule hardly ever applies at Milliken anyway, so I really don't understand how people have such an issue with this rule change.
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| LEFT-RIGHT-OUT
June 6, 2013
5:51:40 PM
Entry #: 4063752
| Has this rule change really affected anything?
Check the "runs for" and you'll see, hopefully, that we are still scoring more than 15 runs a game as a league! Some (the better hitting teams) are scoring 20+ per game...Any other questions?
Sure, believe me I know...you wannna bitch about something...well, find something else! It's a fair rule and I applaud the USPL for accepting this positive change. We're playing 8 innings now!
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| CantHit10
June 7, 2013
7:33:28 AM
Entry #: 4063846
| why did we change this rule?
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| TBH™
June 7, 2013
12:01:54 PM
Entry #: 4063916
| Left-Right-Out made a great point....we are playing 7-8 innings now. Make the 2+ HRs and out and the games will fly by....and beleive it or not, games will be more competitive.
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| MBA98
June 19, 2013
10:00:47 PM
Entry #: 4067462
| In addition to the timeless observations of watching balls fly over the fence. It is pretty much every player dream to have this amazing human experience. Why do we penalize people for enjoying this overwhelming emotion?
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| Gwat
June 21, 2013
7:17:08 AM
Entry #: 4067769
| The hardest thing to see is what is in front of your eyes. Think about it.
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| Harry Package
June 21, 2013
11:45:07 AM
Entry #: 4067809
| ha, ha... so open your eyes dude !
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| Gwat
June 24, 2013
10:07:58 AM
Entry #: 4068224
| Did you think about it?
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| Rockstar81
July 1, 2013
1:05:04 PM
Entry #: 4070445
| What's ur opinion on using hot dots against super grey dots. I believe they make no difference. that's what we use in the 3 leagues I play in?
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| Gwat
July 25, 2013
6:47:55 AM
Entry #: 4076612
| Did you think about it?
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| Seyms
February 9, 2015
1:00:10 PM
Entry #: 4158387
| I like this post from Jim the ump..
as well if you were at the AGM - which you have an opportunity to formally present rule changes, suggestions etc - you would have heard the discussion (or lack of) those who actually opposed the current rule
I am sure the exec will make a decision as best as they can
Hope everyone is wintering well can't wait to get back out there with the fellas!
Jim_the_Ump
June 6, 2013
3:07:15 PM
Entry #: 4063694
Just as a follow up, this is what I know about other leagues around our area (either from me umpiring in that league or in talking to other umpires):
- Markham Men’s Slo-Pitch League (MMSPL): +2 HR Penalty: Strike
- York Region Slo-Pitch League (YRMSPL): A Division +2 HR Penalty: Walk B/C/D Divisions: Max 4 HR’s Penalty: Out
- Aurora Men’s Slo-Pitch League (AMSL): +2 HR Penalty: Out
- Claremont Men’s Slo-Pitch League (CMSPL): +2 HR Penalty: Out
So to Gimme’s point, I’m not sure why players would think about leaving the USPL, as most other leagues have similar homerun limitation rules. Some are more penalizing than others, but I think our league rule is pretty fair.
(As a side note I heard about some leagues and associations in the US adopting an “Inning-Ending Out” as the penalty for hitting a HR if over the limit. You could be the first batter of an inning, but if you hit a HR when over the limit, your team is done for that inning. Now THAT seems a little harsh!)
Anyway, have fun and play safe everyone.
Jim_the_Ump
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| Jim_the_Ump
February 9, 2015
8:14:01 PM
Entry #: 4158429
| Thanks Seyms. See you soon on the diamond.
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| Canthit10
February 11, 2015
11:24:22 AM
Entry #: 4158547
| Don't buy into the myth that there's a trade-off between homers and shooting the box. Guys who only hit long balls are typically pull hitters. When they can't because of the plus two rule they will drill it up the middle. If they get a walk our pitchers are safe from possible damage.
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| Seyms
February 12, 2015
11:32:02 AM
Entry #: 4158638
| Well then those guys are:
a) not great hitters
b) assholes
c) have no respect for the game
d) hate their own lives and need to hit HR's in men's league to feel good about themselves
e) all of the above
Straw poll anyone?
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| Sensrule
February 12, 2015
6:11:36 PM
Entry #: 4158671
| All of the above
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| Birkey
February 13, 2015
9:17:14 AM
Entry #: 4158704
| The answer is C.................I would like to add players
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| JAG28
February 13, 2015
12:48:37 PM
Entry #: 4158722
| Right on Seyms........ for all of your points.
Too many big ass, macho guys with loaded bats.
Canthit10.......if they're pull hitters why don't they hit it at the 3rd baseman or SS (right hand hitters).
Or, learn to go to the wrong field - it would actually make you a better hitter in real parks.
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| LEFT-RIGHT-OUT
February 13, 2015
1:17:06 PM
Entry #: 4158725
| One more thing...IF, you hit the ball where it isn't supposed to be hit (i.e.outside the lines) it's a foul ball=strike!
You are NOT supposed to hit a home run-when up by 2- so, that's a foul ball=strike!
Oh, and it doesn't matter-in our league-if it's your first or 3rd strike-it's still a strike! 3rd strike?-yeah, you're out!
Keep it in the park-when your team is up by 2-is this a difficult concept?
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| Empress Ruler
February 14, 2015
4:05:57 PM
Entry #: 4158798
| If you cant get out of the way don't pitch.
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| HR Leader
February 16, 2015
1:07:16 PM
Entry #: 4158927
| We do not need a rule for hitting home runs.
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| Matches
February 17, 2015
9:33:12 AM
Entry #: 4158961
| Agreed... Remove the rule or if we have to go back to make a walk..... then nobody gets hurt.
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| Press On
February 19, 2015
12:18:21 AM
Entry #: 4159121
| My question isn't if going middle is part of the game cause it is and I have no problem fielding my position that said. If a team says out right go box and they do and by chance you hit and hurt the pitcher, I think thats intent.
Now 2 things if you see it as intent then legally if someone got hurt would or could that playout in a lawsuit (not that I am thinking about that at all) and the other question is if you call it out and then do it isn't there some argument of intent to injure which is not tolerated in slow-pitch.
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February 20, 2015
1:37:29 PM
Entry #: 4159223
| You guys do realize that the theme of this thread is happy holidays not +2 rule?
Seriously - enough is enough.
I am happy to discuss this with people who want to put a name to their comments - as opposed to monikers they can hide behind. Matches, HR Leader, Knight, Canthit – Would be interested to know who you are so we can have a civil conversation about this all. I mean this in a nice and welcoming tone, not any sort of negative connotation.
Hitting it up the middle - to say the left of second base or the right of SS (from the hitter’s perspective) is part of the game." Shooting box" intentionally because you can't hit a lazy fly at Crosby is not.
I do not hit home runs, I wish I could, but there are plenty of guys that we play with, against, watch etc. that can hit HR's on command and do not.
WE have rules - they are there for a reason - every competitive or rec league in the world has rules, and like them or not, we abide by them. See note in the other thread posted recently by me. Threatening to hit a pitcher or shooting box or citing all power hitters are pull and when they can't hit a HR go middle is ridiculous and I refuse to accept that as a reason to not have an HR rule. Most of the best hitters in our league (there's a lot to chose from, I’m happy to make a list) can and do hit it everywhere (even HR’s at will), that's a main reason why they are always on base and their teams win.
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| Brynee
February 22, 2015
11:35:59 AM
Entry #: 4159328
| STUPID RULE!
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| Faux
February 24, 2015
7:15:44 PM
Entry #: 4159535
| I second that motion.
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| Cashman
February 25, 2015
8:27:04 PM
Entry #: 4159619
| Let's move on.
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| Empress Ruler
February 27, 2015
9:35:54 PM
Entry #: 4159780
| Sitting around with my family on a Friday night, arguing the color of that stupid dress. Should we not debate the merits of the dinger rule?
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| Harry Package
February 28, 2015
11:14:41 AM
Entry #: 4159800
| Haha.... stupid is as stupid does, bro.... and I think it's blue and gold !
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| moulton
March 5, 2015
8:41:29 AM
Entry #: 4160248
| How to stop time: kiss.
How to travel in time: read.
How to escape time: music.
How to fear time: write.
How to waste time: ask for the +2 rule to be changed.
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| Guy Smiley
March 6, 2015
6:49:32 AM
Entry #: 4160332
| You make the rule change for two reasons: either you learn enough that you want to or you've been hurt enough that you have to because that bruise is a reminder of the pain.
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| HR Leader
March 12, 2015
9:38:08 AM
Entry #: 4160832
| Here's a nutso idea. To address the home run rule. Deploy it only when a team is plus four. It will work statistically.
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| Nate_8
March 13, 2015
1:49:20 PM
Entry #: 4160959
| Agreed, +4 it is.
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| Sensrule
March 15, 2015
10:53:52 AM
Entry #: 4161072
| Plus four??? Give your collective heads a shake.... In a word dumb...
Looks like the season starts late this season.
Thanks global warming.
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| Ryno
March 23, 2015
1:22:54 PM
Entry #: 4161701
| Why do we have to discuss this baloney every year?
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| Lax LL
March 26, 2015
8:48:19 AM
Entry #: 4161963
| Why do we need a dinger rule anyway
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| Ethos71
March 29, 2015
5:58:41 PM
Entry #: 4162217
| Too many weak hitters ensures that this rule reminds the same.
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| moulton
March 31, 2015
11:09:07 AM
Entry #: 4162375
| AGREED.
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| Barnstormer
April 1, 2015
5:11:11 PM
Entry #: 4162488
| Do we really need to re-visit this AGAIN? The argument that we need this rule to protect weaker hitters is absolutely ludicrous. We need this rule to protect games from becoming snoozefests where half the team just hits home runs. If we want to talk about different rules for Crosby and Milliken that's one thing, but as long as the rules remain consistent it's a no-brainer that this rule has to stay.
I'm by no means a power hitter and I can hit it out of Crosby by accident (ex. leading off a game, when I certainly don't intend to do so). That's not bragging by any means, that's my way of stating how easy it is to hit a home run at Crosby - if I can do it, so can at least half the league (if not more). Do we really want to stand around in the field watching balls fly over our heads until the bottom of the order comes around?
If you're a good hitter, hit liners into the gaps or off the fence when your team is +2. It's not rocket science. The only thing this rule hurts is people's HR stats. Gimme a break already.
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| Ethos71
April 2, 2015
12:35:11 PM
Entry #: 4162527
| In life you are either a passenger or a pilot, it's your choice.
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| JAG28
April 2, 2015
12:58:39 PM
Entry #: 4162528
| Well said Barnstormer.
Why don't you juxt have HR Derby at Crosby and let the real ball players play at Milliken.
You could call it the "Testosterone Derby". You can high five all night and thumb your chests till it hurts.
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| Empress Ruler
April 4, 2015
3:26:57 PM
Entry #: 4162668
| Only a few people actually can hit it out at Crosby with the extended fence.
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| Knight
April 6, 2015
7:40:56 AM
Entry #: 4162730
| Seriously? Give you're head a shake.
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| Ryno
April 7, 2015
10:07:23 PM
Entry #: 4162879
| Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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| Sensrule
September 10, 2015
12:45:29 AM
Entry #: 4181232
| stupid rule..... let's change this in 2016....
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| Lax LL
September 13, 2015
4:38:49 PM
Entry #: 4181549
| Q- Why do we have this rule
A- So weak hitters can feel good about themselves
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| Seyms
September 15, 2015
1:44:47 PM
Entry #: 4181790
| We have the rule for many reasons.
1 - to keep games more competitive
2 - to keep games being played at a park this league and the talent within it has clearly outgrown
3 - Virtually every slo pitch league in the world has a similar one (most are more strict)
4 - because the league voted on it
5 - Great hitters can keep it in the park (ask the teams at the top of the standings)
This is always an issue with merit on both sides. Happy to discuss with anyone who puts a real name up so I know who I am addressing. But as a league, it has worked quite well so far.
As always, I advise and welcome all those who wish to change this rule to come to the AGM and voice your opinion. We allowed people to openly do so last year, which (for those who were there), actually yielded not a SINGLE VOTE in opposition of changing it.
Please, stop whining and complaining about a rule and do NOTHING ABOUT IT. If you do not like it, I suggest you get together with all others who hate it, are against it and live to launch balls out of Crosby and ALL show up. Willing to bet there will be less than 15 of you at the AGM.
$20 says I am right ..(no I am not betting with everyone, just the first person that steps up).
With respect for all USPL members, and with a heavy heart.
Ricky Seymour
Harding #24
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| Jim_the_Ump
September 15, 2015
4:31:08 PM
Entry #: 4181809
| You tell 'em, Ricky.
If guys want to change this rule, they need to do two things:
a) Put on a name on your post so that we know who you are and maybe we can have a serious discussion.
b) Show up at the AGM, argue your point, and let a vote happen.
Until then, please stop posting inane messages about how only wimps like this rule, or that it was created to make life difficult for the power hitters, or that it is just plain stupid. Please. Stop.
Thanks for letting me speak my mind.
Everyone have a safe and enjoyable playoffs.
Jim_the_Ump
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| JAG28
September 16, 2015
2:12:58 PM
Entry #: 4181917
| LaxLL: are you aware that the SPN Rules (Rule 1 Sec.2) indicates that the WOMEN’s diamond has a distance of 225 foot fences (read Crosby Park) for RF,CF,LF. – therefore + 2 rule on homers
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| murk
September 18, 2015
1:20:18 AM
Entry #: 4182082
| lol, the guys that complain about this rule are the ones that aren't good enough to play in other leagues, tournaments, or even provincials.
most competitive leagues call the extra homeruns as an Out.
the ones that complain about this rule most likely have no skill and can't play defense. Their only glory is that they are big, strong, and can only pull the ball.. Other than that, they're most likely no good at anything else, and thus their team has no use for them..
go play Co-ed, the ladies will be in awe of how far you can pull the ball.
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| Sensrule
November 12, 2015
10:06:17 AM
Entry #: 4186663
| Can we bring up the plus two HR rule?
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| Moulton
November 15, 2015
10:06:14 PM
Entry #: 4186890
| Change back to a walk.... It worked.... Solves all the challenges
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| Matches
November 17, 2015
9:56:35 AM
Entry #: 4187004
| We can all agree to change it back next Monday.
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| Knight
November 23, 2015
6:41:49 AM
Entry #: 4187292
| Let's do this tonight.
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| Seyms
November 23, 2015
9:18:28 AM
Entry #: 4187305
| Tonight is the big night for all you, who continue to voice displeasure with a rule which, in my opinion (and that of many), makes this league more competitive and a level playing field.
We welcome all of our league members, especially those who continuously oppose our home run rule or other rules, to come out tonight and publicly address your concerns and put things to a vote.
Looking forward to seeing all of our members tonight! It is always nice to talk ball and have a beverage with those who make this such a great league.
Cheers,
Ricky Seymour
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| JAG28
November 24, 2015
1:36:55 PM
Entry #: 4187406
| Write all you want - apparently no one had enough interest to bring it up for debate during the AGM.
Typical - blah blah blah means nothing.
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| Jim_the_Ump
November 26, 2015
8:22:05 AM
Entry #: 4187501
| See my post on September 15. Especially point b).
You all had your chance to show up at the AGM, argue your point, and let a vote happen. You chose not to. In Ricky’s words, all that was heard at the meeting was...[crickets].
So for the next year (at least), please, no more posts on this rule. Give it a rest. Find another battle to fight.
Enjoy the off-season, guys. See you in the spring.
Jim_the_Ump
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| Nate_8
January 5, 2016
11:18:49 AM
Entry #: 4189519
| New year equals new rule.
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| MBA98
February 26, 2016
6:27:50 PM
Entry #: 4192430
| It is fascinating how much you can learn from individuals you meet during the course of the season, only by engaging, genuinely listening, and caring for their stories. Most people are afraid to articulate their thoughts on this rule.
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| Brynee
March 8, 2016
7:34:24 AM
Entry #: 4193005
| Greetings,
We are turning the corner of Winter! Spring is around the corner. I hope this day finds you well and content. What are we doing about this plus two rule?
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| JAG28
March 8, 2016
10:31:56 AM
Entry #: 4193015
| Wow, i'm impressed we actually went for 11 days without someone bringing up the +2 Rule.
Does the comment "bring it up at the AGM" not mean anything?
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| Knight
April 12, 2016
7:33:35 AM
Entry #: 4195190
| Here we grow again... What is the status of this rule?
Only wrote this to support JAG.
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| Nate_8
June 23, 2016
3:19:45 PM
Entry #: 4200768
| Thanks JAG, when is the rule changing?
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| CantHit10
June 26, 2016
11:17:04 PM
Entry #: 4201007
| I have been on this stupid rule for 5 years now. Can we change it next year?
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| Fureza
July 11, 2016
1:01:13 PM
Entry #: 4202173
| Can we change it to a double for the 2017 season????
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| Nate_8
May 17, 2017
6:06:36 PM
Entry #: 4221050
| Why did we not change this?
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| CantHit10
May 20, 2017
12:56:43 PM
Entry #: 4221166
| A walk for plus two is the only solution.
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| CantHit10
June 26, 2017
6:07:57 PM
Entry #: 4223230
| We are changing this rule back to a walk next year
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| Local 1134
August 25, 2017
9:32:49 AM
Entry #: 4229533
| Let's us get out and vote for this change in 2018.
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| Rockstar81
August 31, 2017
2:47:51 PM
Entry #: 4229975
| Memo:- to all the box shooters
People have to go to work the day after a game.
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| Fast&Slow
September 2, 2017
9:31:27 AM
Entry #: 4230053
| I pitch and have for several years.....I also hit middle....its part of the game...but I have had guys come up to plate and tell me that they are goin to put me on my ass....and I laugh and tell them to go ahead and try....had one guy tell me that I better move because he is goin to hurt me if I dont...well I didnt take to kind to him trying to back me down...so I told him to go ahead little man....lol prob shouldn't talk smack back as a pitcher but ego wouldnt let me shut up....so I tell him here comes your pitch and toss him one middle and a little outside so he could try....well he hit the piss out of it...but I caught it...licked it and looked at him and said nice but needs a little more mustard on it.....benches cleared...oooops....I know it was a douche bag move but hey cant let him intimidate me...
This was numerous years ago in another league....this league is more mature and classy for .... this crap
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| Bigelow
September 4, 2017
5:49:50 PM
Entry #: 4230191
| The last point is the greatest in your speech. No one tries to hurt anyone in this league.
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| Fureza
September 5, 2017
2:10:23 PM
Entry #: 4230275
| Most people don't realize how lucky they are to get the experience and meet some amazing people in this league. It is very humbling.
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| CantHit10
November 2, 2017
5:57:15 PM
Entry #: 4234083
| Should we go down the plus two road at the agm.
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| Lax LL
November 11, 2017
4:34:36 PM
Entry #: 4234931
| This rule is existing because of weak hitters that are jealous, I wrote about this two years ago.... scroll up.
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| CantHit10
April 30, 2018
8:06:27 PM
Entry #: 4248336
| Status of this rule this year
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| tswear
May 4, 2018
2:05:39 PM
Entry #: 4248712
| Anybody have an update on this rule
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| Nate_8
May 16, 2018
2:54:57 PM
Entry #: 4249767
| Big scores in the first two weeks of the season, are we reviewing this rule
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| CantHit10
May 26, 2018
1:44:20 PM
Entry #: 4250588
| From the results Colin———it looks like most team are equally talented
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