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March 21, 2011
7:57:46 PM
Entry #: 3681230
| 6.3 (a) A Major penalty and a Game Misconduct penalty shall be assessed any player who charges a goaltender is within his crease or who injures an opponent as a result of a charge.
2010-2011 OHF Minimum Suspension List (Hockey Canada)
The following are minimum suspensions that shall be imposed for infractions,which occur in all OHF (Hockey Canada) exhibition, league,and play-off games, during the current playing season
GM59 Charging (Major +Game) 6.3 2 Games
Our "Constitution" is made up of the rules and regulations from Hockey Canada.
Its quite clear Stu sits at least next game (game 2) of the final round of 2010-2011 playoffs. minimum
Rule 4.6 Game Ejection/Game Misconduct Penalties
Its clear that this penalty alone is the remainder of the game, as long as it takes place prior to the last ten minutes of the 3rd period, this situation is not a GM alone, as noted above its preceded by a Major 5 min penalty.
Side note:
There's no buy backs for non fighting infractions. see constitution.
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| goodtry
March 21, 2011
9:12:42 PM
Entry #: 3681310
| read it again, rule 5.6 any player or coach assest a game misconduct will be ejected for the balance of the game.If assest in the third period an automatic game suspension will be assesed
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March 21, 2011
10:35:46 PM
Entry #: 3681438
| Download hockey Canada's case book/rule combination 2010-2012, and take a good read at sec 4.4 "Major Penalties" then look at OHF (Ontario Hockey Federation) minimum suspension guidelines that covers all Hockey Canada leagues. You will see there that a "major penalty is 2 games regardless of when the incident happens. You would be correct to say he could play next game if it was only a game ejection or game misconduct before the last 10 min in the 3rd, but your 100 percent wrong to think he would play after receiving a 5min major penalty. Do some research nice try before you make another reply!
now its up to the league executives to uphold the referees call.
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March 21, 2011
10:43:59 PM
Entry #: 3681453
| rule 5.6 in the latest rule book for hockey canada is for "Official Scorer" not sure what rule book and year of it your looking at. 4.5 is the area for misconduct penalties, which is half of this situation.
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| goodtry
March 21, 2011
10:47:37 PM
Entry #: 3681460
| the constitution.. you should read it. pretty black and white to me
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March 21, 2011
10:54:15 PM
Entry #: 3681470
| And the "Constitution" covers Major penalties?
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| goodtry
March 21, 2011
11:38:25 PM
Entry #: 3681503
| if we are going to go by the 2010/2011 OHF(hockey canada)rules only. (not the minor adjustments our league has had to make for it to be suitable for the unqualified refereeing that we have to deal with ) I would guess that less then half of the referee's are Level 2 or 3 qualified to even implement 2010/2011 OHF(hockey canada)rules.
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March 21, 2011
11:57:07 PM
Entry #: 3681519
| The issue at hand is not the refs (don't change the subject), but rather the outcome of a penalty called for a play that was intended to rattle whites goalie. The 5 min major and GM was the right call. Without the appropriate suspension, what's to stop the losing team in the future from running over the winning teams goalie(see OHF suspension guidelines for minimums). If you have had questions regarding the refs qualifications Im sure you could ask the league president for minimum level II for our refs. Until that happens, we have what we have.
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| goodtry
March 22, 2011
12:37:03 AM
Entry #: 3681549
| my point is the call is the interpretation of a unqualified ref that got this started, most witnesses say 2 minor for trip or maybe a 2 min minor for rough at most not even close to trying to run a goalie.. and this is great it's been a long long time since i have wanted to compete this bad in a hockey game,thank's for the spark see ya sunday
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March 22, 2011
9:57:19 PM
Entry #: 3682561
| Bumping,roughing,or pushing the goalie over in his crease is "not" 2 min minor for roughing. Its not an interpretation, it was the proper call, and the ref in question regardless of his qualifications made the right call, he's one of the 8 guys we have had this year that had the knowledge to call it how he did. Text book call,now its the leagues turn to follow up with the proper recourse for the actions. I have a good guess as to the outcome.
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| Colossus
March 22, 2011
10:51:29 PM
Entry #: 3682614
| For starters dumb dumb we dont use those rules. And really you come on here to post that what a joke you are. You must be on crack. Team captin yellow said it was the wrong call should have been 2 mins at most, even johnstons dad said it should have been 2 mins he had knowhere to go, shows how much you know retard. And it didn't happen in the crease were you even there, it was behind the net where was Stu suppose to go. If he wanted to take him out he wouldnt have got up he would have left on a stretcher. And ya there is nothing stopping us from running the winning teams goalie again. We will probly do it again. And the decision has been made Stu plays. wouldnt you rather beat us with are best guys it would feel much better at least I think so. Give your head a shake Mike and worry about beating us on sunday you only have to do it 1 more time anyway. I know your a jew but really give it up and just beat us and that solves everything then you can rub it in even more. Peace Jew
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March 22, 2011
11:46:56 PM
Entry #: 3682650
| Do you think we invented our own rules from thin air? I know he's going to play, I'm just stating the known rules of all hockey in Canada because that was the argument sunday, if the call was a major and a GM he is to sit. I'd rather he play, so there's no excuses. Don't throw stones and hide behind a number sign in, pretty mature!
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| Colossus
March 23, 2011
9:12:17 AM
Entry #: 3682802
| Whats there to hide i thought my name came up. It's Curt big fuckin whoop. We dont use Hockey Canada. I haven't read the rules and im no ref just thought it was a 5 min major didnt know that automatically is considered a GM. Even Harness said he hopes he is gone for next game just wanted to get the point across to not harm the goalie. He originally called it a 2 until Stu started lipping him and he changed his mind so what does that tell you. I knew you would be waiting around like the computer nerd you are waiting for a reply on your rediculous comments, thats why I came on and sure enough no suprise there was a reply from dumb dumb. There are numerous amount of ppl that agree he should play even the ref who handed out the penelty. So like I said give your head a shake and beat us one more time and you can do all the chirping you want. Anyway see you on the ice as I blow by you meat stick, Or wait you will probly be on the bench being sat by much more talented younger brother you plug. Peace
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| Colossus
March 23, 2011
9:14:32 AM
Entry #: 3682805
| Well guess im the dumb dumb now put harness hopes he doesnt play meant hopes he doesnt miss nxt game.
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| Colossus
March 23, 2011
2:51:51 PM
Entry #: 3683302
| Hide behind a number sign in. good one Tweet Tweet. Bah hahah
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| BlueBlood
March 23, 2011
4:56:53 PM
Entry #: 3683489
| Wow thats a lot of reading. Personally I didn't see what Stu did, but it was prob the regular duh move he usually pulls when things don't go his way. F'kn let him play. We r better off with that old man out there anyway. Just know the BS can go both ways.
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March 24, 2011
10:58:02 AM
Entry #: 3684163
| After the game,team yellow "captain" was trying to telll us the rules. And while the adults where talking, I brought it to his attention that any 5 min major, including tripping carries automatically a GM (game misconduct) in any hockey from minor-senior mens hockey, maybe with some exclusions for OHL. That in itself is the argument. Again, not to sound like a broken record but Newcastle Town league adopted it's rules from somewhere, and that somewhere is Hockey Canada. and according to Hockey Canada it's a suspension offense.
Major penalties is missing from our constitution, it should be black and white in there, and not the leagues discretion. Taking into account who the player is and what team is he on shouldn't factor in the outcome. I want him to play, don't get me wrong, thats not the argument, I want the right calls made first.
If harness wanted him out, he should have gave him 2 min for basket weaving (means anything) and a "Game Ejection" And we wouldn't be having this debate. If he's unqualified, why has he skated 5 games this year?
The only time your name was brought up was someone saying you got run over while we went down to take the lead. I wont drop to your level with your school yard comments,computer geek,nerd,dumb dumb,your brothers better, lol you forgot your dads tougher than my dad and oh by the way, "I'm rubber your glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you"!
Lots of views anyway, unless its just you waiting for me to reply, see ya sunday, oh,I forgot Jew and plug, sure whatever.
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| the-king
March 24, 2011
2:26:09 PM
Entry #: 3684419
| this is entertaining
keep it up!
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| Bardown
March 24, 2011
4:24:20 PM
Entry #: 3684552
| Pretty hard to imagine someone would deserve to sit a game for a little bump like that. Yes a penalty was warranted. I can even see him being kicked outta the game to try and keep the game from getting outta hand. But sitting out another game is just plain ridiculous. He came out of his net to play the puck and put himself in that situation. He was nowhere near his crease. Stay in your net nothing happens. It's playoffs. Man up or stay off the ice. Enough of this whining over the calls and rules shit.
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| the-king
March 24, 2011
5:59:37 PM
Entry #: 3684658
| I agree with Holm-, oops, i mean Bardown. its playoffs.
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March 24, 2011
10:39:40 PM
Entry #: 3684842
| 6.3(b) see above
NOTE:A goaltender is not "fair game" just because he is outside the goal crease area. A penalty for interference(Minor,or at the discretion of the referee, a Major penalty and a Game Misconduct penalty) or charging (Minor, or, at the discretion of the referee, Major penalty and a Game Misconduct penalty) shall be called where an opposing player makes unnecessary contact with a goaltender, likewise, referees should be alert to penalize goaltenders for tripping, slashing, or spearing in the vicinity of the goal.
you can download this from Hockey Canada's website,non-fiction section.
Lets not kid ourselves, Stu knew what he was doing. He's a better player than to be pulling that crap, Harness did him a favor by giving him the gate. And if he is telling guys (red) after the game that he doesn't think he should sit next game, he should have made the proper call for that,(2 min and game ejection, or game misconduct) And if you look back at unknown red players comments about "running the winning goalie again" shows what you have for respect for the guys you play against,play hard not stupid!
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| Bardown
March 25, 2011
1:09:49 AM
Entry #: 3684913
| Never once was the term fair game used. I was implying the fact that it's playoffs and things are different. Going into corners with certain players is different now then it was in December. Skating with ur head down is different now then in November. Going out of ur crease to play the puck is different now then January. Every player faces tougher competition and it should be expected given the circumstances. It is the finals right? It's not like he was completely flattened. He was bumped and fell over and got right back up. I will say it again. It's playoffs. Suck it up
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| BlueBlood
March 27, 2011
1:11:03 PM
Entry #: 3686108
| Ya and targeting a goaltender as a game-plan is different as well. See how it goes if it happens again.
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