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| Mellowing Out
August 10, 2011
10:58:45 PM
Entry #: 3779232
| Bravo to the teams who wanted to "play the game" in the sunny weather last night. Both 6:30 games were played. Thumbs down to the teams that decided they weren't going to show for the 8pm and 9:30 game. There was plenty of time to field a team yesterday. It's hard to believe that your teams changed their plans to play when we were notified midafternoon about the games status. For 3 of the 4 that didn't play, it was their only game of the week. You'd think they'd be itching to play. Who were you missing last night??? We all know how many games were lost and how it's difficult to make up these games. When the league says it's "game on", we should be playing. Teams that chose not to play should receive a default or all the games should be replayed. I'm sure all the losers would like another shot at playing if that isn't the case.
Chris Cadorin,
Summit 6T6
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August 11, 2011
9:06:04 AM
Entry #: 3779380
| I agree with the comments above. The teams that did not show up, technically defaulted. That was easy.
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| Tarheel
August 11, 2011
10:05:03 AM
Entry #: 3779426
| I think what you guys are missing is the fact that we had only 9 guys available for the game and after calling spares earlier in the day were told the game was a rainout. After sending out a team email to inform everyone of the rainout four of the guys then committed to other things. Once the rainout was cancelled we were unable to then have those guys for the game. Were we supposed to call 7 spares 4 hours before the game? I think many of you think we were trying to be difficult and that simply was not the case and to force us to take a forfeit is ridiculous. How this somehow became our fault I have no idea. If the shoe was on the other foot and we had played and others didn't I certainly wouldn't be voicing my opinion without having the facts!
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| its just a game
August 11, 2011
10:48:22 AM
Entry #: 3779471
| I always wonder how over the years when these type of games are cancelled and then told that they will play 2 hours later the amount of people who make plans that in turn can't be cancelled or altered for 9:30 at night. Hmmm, best players missing is usually the truth. Just sayin.
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| Tarheel
August 11, 2011
11:27:15 AM
Entry #: 3779509
| Yes in fact we were missing some good players as well but that doesn't change the fact that we couldn't field a team after the game was cancelled. Most people do have some other things going on other than baseball. Maybe the fact that you don't is the real problem here. Why don't you concern yourself with your team and not worry about ours. By the way the game was at 8:00pm not 9:30pm. I think the real problem here is that then town cancelled the permits and then did a 180. Maybe guys should be concerned more with this than our team? I think over the years our team has earned a benefit of the doubt in this situation as we have always been on the up and up!
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| Mellowing Out
August 11, 2011
11:28:28 AM
Entry #: 3779512
| I find that hard to believe as well. The cancellation was put on the web and went out in an email to team reps at 2:30 pm. How many guys actually viewed the web that afternoon at work? - I doubt very many. How quick reps notified their teammates, who knows? Who knows how many are glued to their emails or phones. The cancellation was taken down and an email was sent to all reps at 4:30 saying we were playing. Most guys would still be at work. Teams can't decide "we're not going to show". The 6:30 games were played. 10 of 14 teams played and it counted in the standings. There was lots of time to get your team ready for 8 and 9:30. There are a ton of spares or masters to choose from.
The league goes out of their way to make schedule changes and converse with Markham park staff to get these games in. You have to play when you can.
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| Tarheel
August 11, 2011
11:57:57 AM
Entry #: 3779546
| Chris,
Our team captain emailed everyone on our team to notify them of the cancellation. I would think that most guys have a BB and got the email right away. Regardless when guys say they can't make it at the time when the games were rescheduled what were we to do call them all liars as you guys are now doing? Just because you were able to field a team after the cancellation doesn't mean that we could. I cannot believe that a team which has never forfeited a game and has a good name in this league (that I know of) is being questioned on this. As I said before I think the questions should be aimed at the Town of Markham and not us. We did not break any rules.
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| injury prone
August 11, 2011
2:22:11 PM
Entry #: 3779669
| I am pissed off at the town as well. It seems like they think we are playing on fields of silk! What happenned to the old days when you just showed up and made a game time decision? I think with all the graduate courses available for parks and rec, we may have some people over-thinking things.........
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| Houghts
August 11, 2011
4:01:06 PM
Entry #: 3779756
| Chris
I have to agree with Tarheel on this one. As soon as I heard the games were cancelled due to rain I altered my work schedule to accomodate appointments. I then had to backtrack and re-schedule to be able to barely make the game. In the future the league should call the town first before they post the cancellation of the games.
Hopefully no more rain
Dave
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| Mellowing Out
August 11, 2011
4:46:54 PM
Entry #: 3779786
| Hi Dave,
Your opinion is noted. However you as I, were probably ready to play and wondering why we weren't playing when the sun was out at 3pm. However it was your 3rd game of the week, so you probably weren't so itchy to play. I was backtracking all afternoon too Dave. Sometimes that's what is needed. Especially when you have the team rep job. First telling the team there was no game, then scrambling to call each guy back on the phone to make sure that they knew there was a game. Then I had to call them again at 8pm to tell them that we weren't playing because the other team wasn't showing up. Some had already left for the game. Many of them had altered their "changed plans" to play again. How pissed do you think they were??
Still 10 of 14 teams played. Even the early games were able to field enough guys. You think those teams who lost aren't going to want their games replayed?? Is the league ready to do that??They should have been ready to play, due to all the previous rain outs we've had, especially with it being the late games. Nuff said.
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| Matches
August 12, 2011
7:10:53 AM
Entry #: 3780080
| I didn't realize it was an option to not participate in the games on Tuesday night. Why would teams not play? The spares list was not working? Do we have any days remaining in the schedule to replay all seven games?
The simple solution is the replay all the games, it is then fair for everyone. What happens when the games are rescheduled and a team decides not to show up? Do we replay it again?
The league decision on this issue will be critical going forward. Do not miss the main point guys, if the game is on, you need to field a team. If you don't care to show up, your team has defaulted.
In conclusion the ONLY choice here is to keep the scores for the games played. The two games that were not played are defaults.
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| studiello
August 14, 2011
9:59:19 AM
Entry #: 3781107
| result = two defaults
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| Rockstar81
August 15, 2011
7:50:55 AM
Entry #: 3781539
| Are you guys comedians? Come on be real! Almost everyone showed up for the games. The two teams that did not play have forfeited. Why is this a topic to discuss?
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| Ryno
August 16, 2011
12:17:46 AM
Entry #: 3782261
| If those two games are replayed, then I want to replay our game. It is only fair.
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| CubsFan
August 16, 2011
12:48:11 PM
Entry #: 3782361
| no question, that teams that did not show, have forfeited
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| Labtech
August 16, 2011
11:32:33 AM
Entry #: 3782487
| LEAGUE RULES:
A minimum of eight (8) players per team, six (6) of whom must be from said team, is required to start and continue a game, or the game will be defaulted in favor of the non-offending team. A team may use two players from other USPL teams to bring the number of players on their team to a maximum of eight (8) players. Under no circumstances can players from the opposing team be used in a regulation game to avoid a default. In the case of a double default of a regularly scheduled game, no points will be awarded and the provisions of By-Law 5.05(c) will apply to both teams.
The two teams in question did not show up to the game. The game is a default. Case closed.
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| Gimme
August 16, 2011
1:34:02 PM
Entry #: 3782599
| I believe By-Law 5.05 calls for teams that forfeit a game to not only make restitution to the league for their costs (umpire, etc.), but to also lose a player to the ‘A’ draft next year.
Can someone clarify?
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| tswear
August 17, 2011
8:34:23 AM
Entry #: 3783056
| Agreed 100%, no show equals no replay. Default is the answer for the two games missed.
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| Gimme
August 17, 2011
8:39:00 AM
Entry #: 3783058
| It sounds like the choice is to assess defaults to the teams that didn’t show up, or to replay ALL the games
If ALL the games have to be replayed, and I’m on Wing It, DBS, Remax, and The Arms, I’d be pissed because you’d be taking away 2 points that my team rightfully earned. You can probably count MAS in that group too, who were happy to squeak out a tie with Travel Lovers.
On the other hand, if I’m on Harding, Kelseys, NVision, Bistro, and Travel Lovers, I’d be jumping at the chance to replay so I could get another shot at winning.
You want to wipe out the results for 10 other teams because a few guys decide not to show up?? That makes no sense.
If I have a vote (which I don’t!), it’s 2 defaults.
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| Tank65
August 17, 2011
11:40:33 AM
Entry #: 3783234
| I guess what people forget is the city pulled the permit and clearly stated games were not to be played. That being said, those that did play could have jeopardized our permit with the city AND had anyone got hurt the leagues insurance would likely not covered any claims as a result and you wouldn't been able to sue the city since the permits were pulled. DST didn't play and I guess Gonzo (league exec) did the right thing and not field a team. I don't play for DST for the record. I guess the city does not employ Parks and Rec staff after 5pm to lift the order. So stop the whinning as for those that did play could have done more damage collectively to the fields and the league's relationship with the city.
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| Kaber69
August 19, 2011
11:14:04 AM
Entry #: 3784645
| So what decision was made? I am on the Bistro and because of the flip flop we lost 4 of our top guys for the night (rescheduled and couldn"t make it)so I would love to replay our game (we had 8 guys)and for the record...DST had a team...just no one to play against
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