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TOPIC: B League Tourney-Thursday Aug. 18th |
| BallStateTucker
August 12, 2011
4:34:42 PM
Entry #: 3780492
| Round Robin Top and Bottom Field then Champion/Consolation.
Run Differential to decide ties if all teams 1-1. Coin Flip determines At Bat for each game.
Schedule:
Top Field
6:15 SI Stealth VS.Titans
7:15 Titans VS. McBride
8:15 McBride VS. SI Stealth
Bottom Field
6:15 Tequilas VS Shawnee Winery
7:15 Shawnee Winery VS. McAllisters
8:15 McAllisters VS.Tequilas
Championship Game on Bottom Field 9:15 ish.
Consolation game on Top Field.
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| THill33
August 15, 2011
11:44:34 AM
Entry #: 3781743
| Shouldn't the higher seeds from the regular season at least be the home team?
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| BallStateTucker
August 15, 2011
7:33:51 PM
Entry #: 3782105
| Thanks for asking, Higher seeds get favorable first games...
coin flips to chance for each game.
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| Drew B
August 15, 2011
8:33:55 PM
Entry #: 3782148
| I would think the first place team should have some sort of advantage in the tournament but they have none. It's really poorly put together. I'd agree with the favorable match-up comment. However, the most favorable match-up for the one seed is to play the six seed, not the fifth. So please try to explain to me where exactly our advantage is as the best regular season team.
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| Drew B
August 15, 2011
8:36:35 PM
Entry #: 3782150
| However, props on the pool play format this year. Nicely done in that respect.
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| THill33
August 15, 2011
8:38:59 PM
Entry #: 3782152
| And the 2&3 seeds are always on the opposite side from the 1. Now if you guys put it like it should be and we lose to McBride or Titans I'll come back and complain that you changed it to the way it should be :p
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| BallStateTucker
August 16, 2011
12:21:04 PM
Entry #: 3782382
| Hey I have been in tourneys for over 30 years....
they can be run many different ways...
Round Robin with 1, 3, 5 and 2, 4, 6 is done all the time.
What are you whining about? play ball and play your 3 games.
Best team that night will win.
Fresh coin flip.... per game.
If the ball is hit to you catch it, if you get a chance to hit with guys on base... do it. That is what will determine the games.
Poorly run league... come on... do we need any more drama?
Step up and help out next year and go to all the meetings.
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| Drew B
August 16, 2011
12:17:53 PM
Entry #: 3782579
| How do you not understand what we are complaining about? It's simple as this, we gain no advantage by being the best team in the regular season. In A and C league the #1 team gets an advantage by only having to win one game to get to the title.
Because of pool play we do not get that same advantage. (Don't get me wrong pool play is a great idea. I commend you for doing that.) Where my problem lies is the fact that the #1 seed does not get "favorable match-ups" and there isn't even a home team advantage. I've played a lot of tournaments in my life too and the top team always has some sort of advantage. We have none.
And I didn't say it was a poorly run league I said the tournament was poorly put together, and I stand by that.
If you want help next year give me a call 618-318-2782. I'll gladly help if it means things actually get done right.
Drew Boehler
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| THill33
August 16, 2011
12:47:51 PM
Entry #: 3782612
| You're supposed to catch the ball when it's hit? Hit the ball when you are up to bat? Geez, thanks for that info!
Look if we go out and get beat twice by whoever, guess what? I will go home and lay my head down on my pillow and I won't lose sleep over what happened. Most guys on our team play softball once a week, and we have been together playing for a while. We like getting together as friends and playing.Softball isn't our life.
That doesn't make what you guys are trying to do right. Like Drew said, being 1st in the regular season has done nothing for us. I have never been a part of ANY tournament where there is regular season play and the bracket or the pools are set up like this. It's just not done. I can see if you go on a Saturday tournament where there is NO regular season play and setting up a tournament like this. That would be logical.
Also, why is it that our tournament is on Thursday? Is it that McAlisters can't play on Wednesday? It seems that way to me.Both the A and C league tourneys were on Wednesday. You guys played one Wednesday game all Summer. We won't have 3 guys there this Thursday. Last time we played you guys on Thursday we had to find 6 people to fill our roster to make 10. I told John at the first of the year that we would have troubles playing on Thursday. I did expect to have to play on Thursday sometimes. I knew that. But then even our makeup game what was supposed to be on Wednesday got moved to Thursday(There were no games on that Wednesday either). I was told that make up games would be scheduled for the same night of the week that they were originally supposed to be played.
In my first reply all I asked was to at least assign the higher seed as the home team. Then I got a smart remark "Thanks for asking" "higher seeds have an advantage". Come on. Really?
I enjoy playing. It's fun. Like I said, we don't need to be softball champions to feel like we have accomplised something. We'll go and play Thursday, tournament pools right or wrong, and we'll go on about or lives as usual.
Thanks
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| BallStateTucker
August 16, 2011
12:51:58 PM
Entry #: 3782616
| Believe me, I do get what you are talking about.
Maybe too much coffee for me this morning, did not mean to be edgy.
John and I discussed the end of season several times... we opted for this format for competition sake... better games are better games. We did the same thing in the Good Life League with 1, 3 & 4 in pool play with 2, 5, & 6.
This is not the world series.... when you guys are running the league a few years from now... you can set this up the way you want. We are open for discussion before the season, but the details during the year do pile up... and we go with the best way to go and that is that.
Hope you have a good tourney... it is all just fun~!
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| aks
August 17, 2011
11:40:00 PM
Entry #: 3783839
| are you guys serious theres no whining in mens softball McCallisters will win the whole thing and they dont have the favorable match ups. Come on seriously I bet you couldnt run the leagues as well as they have done and if so maybe you should give a try next year
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