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TOPIC: Mediuum Midget Novice |
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| CheeringsBeeast(;
November 5, 2011
10:14:48 PM
Entry #: 3831606
| Does anyone know the winners of this division ?
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| cheercoach09
November 5, 2011
11:14:14 PM
Entry #: 3831652
| Methuen 1st and Medford 2nd
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| prideandspirit
November 5, 2011
11:24:51 PM
Entry #: 3831660
| That was a great division to watch....what were the results of Midget Large Novice?
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| Cheerfan44
November 6, 2011
12:17:35 AM
Entry #: 3831692
| We left before the awards, congrats to Methuen and Medford, but I am actually shocked that Waltham wasn't called... What a tough division.. Any thoughts??
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| CheerFan66
November 6, 2011
12:27:07 AM
Entry #: 3831698
| Agree, toughest division of the day!! Waltham did look to have a clean routine, and Methuen and Medford may have had mistakes, but there is obviously more to judging than being clean. It was awsome!! No boubt there will be invites from here. There were some girls hurt in this division, anybody know how they are?
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| cheerdad143
November 6, 2011
12:38:28 AM
Entry #: 3831702
| Midget large novice was
Dracut 1st and mansfield 2nd! Dracut was perfect
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| CheerWatcher
November 6, 2011
12:48:37 AM
Entry #: 3831708
| Wow!!!! What a wonderful division of competition. There were 5 very tough teams!! The announced winners may have been a suprise, but they easily could have called Methuen, Medford, Waltham, Everett or Taunton 1st or 2nd!! Some did have mistakes, some were clean, but in my eyes, ALL should advance they were that tight. EMASS should be proud!!!!
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| Cheereo
November 6, 2011
1:23:35 AM
Entry #: 3831719
| As a Cheer Coach who watched this division, I too was very surprised that Waltham was not announced first or second. Methuen & Medford were excellent, a couple of minor flaws, but the Waltham routine was perfect. And yes, it was a great division to watch. Good luck to all who advance to NE Regionals, competition will only get tougher! Good night everyone, long day, we are tired!
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| chear2009
November 6, 2011
1:29:39 AM
Entry #: 3831722
| I think the judges were spot on with this division. Yes, each team had their flaws but in my opinion these 2 teams showed the most difficulty overall. I'm anxious to see who gets the invite because the scores had to be close, this was my favorite division of the night.
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| Cheercritic
November 6, 2011
1:38:25 AM
Entry #: 3831742
| 5 very competitive squads. Looked to me that Medford & Waltham actually had the only "clean" performances, (but all were trmendous). Methuen, Everett and Taunton all had drops in stunts. Not being a judge, I don't know what deductions were for any of the teams, but curious when Methuen dropped their stunt and the spotter actually assisted in catching the flyer, is the point deduction the same as just dropping a stunt? Maybe there is a coach out there who has the answer. Good luck to Eastern Mass at Regionals.
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| Cheer1970
November 6, 2011
2:06:51 AM
Entry #: 3831752
| I thought there would be some chatter about the winners here. I must say I was surprised also. Send em all to Finals and let them battle again. They wer all good.
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| Cheereo
November 6, 2011
8:46:53 AM
Entry #: 3831817
| In regards to the Methuen fall in their stunt, by definition a Major Mistake (falls from stunts), are a 1 point deduction. A major Fall (pyramid collapse etc...) is a 2 point deduction. I would put the Methuen fall in the 1 point deduction category. I do not know the answer if there is a different deduction if the Professional Safety Spotter actually catches the falling stunt.
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| Coach08
November 6, 2011
9:16:19 AM
Entry #: 3831828
| This was SUCH a close division! I too had Waltham placing top 2...however in sure first and fourth were only off by tenths of points. Regionals could be anyones day!
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| CheerProud10
November 6, 2011
9:21:52 AM
Entry #: 3831829
| There is no points for having the SPOTTERS jump in to try and catch a flyer. That is their job! Half the time they don't even need to try and catch the girl because her bases under her catch her just fine!
Overall, I believe the Top 2 teams were Spot on! 1 point off of your score sheet is not a whole lot when you are scoring high on your sections of your score sheet!
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| star23
November 6, 2011
10:19:47 AM
Entry #: 3831857
| Toughest division of the day...I think the top 5 teams should move on...all their falls were minor, I'm not a judge but they teams were all near perfect! Big shout of to Taunton for being mentioned in such a powerehouse as Eastern Ma...I loved their routine.
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| CheeringsBeeast(;
November 6, 2011
12:58:49 PM
Entry #: 3831953
| Any thoughts about invites for this division ?
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| Cheer1970
November 6, 2011
2:10:23 PM
Entry #: 3831995
| Being that some thought that Waltham or Taunton could have won, seems they would be a logical choice.
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| Coach08
November 6, 2011
2:39:39 PM
Entry #: 3832008
| I believe waltham will definitely be invited seeing as Taunton and Everett most likely both received deductions for their stunting errors. As far as the next round goes, i think the team with no deductions will place top 2.In response to the comment that said a 1 point deduction isn't that big of a deal for high scoring teams, i believe all teams moving on in this division will be scoring high in each section of the score sheet...1 point could put someone from 1st to 3rd. The next round will be even tougher. Good luck to all!
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| mygirlcheers
November 6, 2011
3:52:58 PM
Entry #: 3832055
| If I remember correctly, I could be wrong so dont bite my head off but I thought Methuen also had a stunt issue and they placed 1st, so I think that proves that invites could go anyway! it certainly was a very very tough division, all teams fought hard and all deserve to advance on if they could
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| star23
November 6, 2011
5:00:13 PM
Entry #: 3832091
| I think, Waltham and Taunton should get invites...but you never know...Everett was excellent as well
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| mandz13
November 6, 2011
9:23:15 PM
Entry #: 3832318
| I completely agree with how the judges placed the teams. In my opinion, I really do no see the point of invites. These girls are in a competitive sport. They should not have to go through heart-broken emotions after losing, get invited, and then have to go through it again. COME ON....I know Waltham stepped up last year and declined their invite (that they very well deserved) due to the fact that an "invite" is not the same as winning. I think pop warner should go back to its old ways...taking 1st and 2nd NO INVITES.
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| Cheer1970
November 6, 2011
10:46:27 PM
Entry #: 3832414
| I have to disagree with Manndz13. You are using the word "invite" like it's something that is just given away!! The correct wording is "Qualify". It is my understanding that the teams that are called and asked back to competition, have met the scoring criteria that earned them an "invite". NE Qualifiers were a two day competition. It is my understanding that if a teams scores that competed on Saturday, were better than the scores of the 1st & 2nd place teams in Sundays competition, they would then "Qualify".. This woud guarantee that the very best would be competing at NE Regional Championships, be it Waltham, Taunton or whoever.. If I am wrong, please correct me.
You may also agree how the judges placed the teams, but their are others who differ with your opinion. I also disagree with you when you state that "these girls should not have to go through the heart-broken emotions after losing, and then have to go through it again.. These girls would LOVE the chance to compete again... Like you said, it's a competitive sport... Just ask the Medford girls!!! I saw tears of joy Saturday, not heart-broken emotions... They were an "invite". They "Qualified" and they earned it... If Waltham and Taunton "Qualify", that's great for everyone involved. It makes for a stronger, tougher competition! Some people believe they should have won.. To"Qualify" esures that the finest will be competing for the New England Championships, and that's what we would like to see!!
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| boomer2411
November 7, 2011
8:08:22 AM
Entry #: 3832592
| Waltham used to have a rule that they do not accept invites, as an organization they do not take them, anyone know if this has changed?
I think this division is really anyones game, I would be surprised if both Taunton and Everett do not get invites, regionals will be a tough fight for these teams!
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| CheerMom6147
November 7, 2011
8:17:33 AM
Entry #: 3832597
| @ Cheer1970 - that is my understanding as well. A third or fourth place sqaud could have a higher score than the first or second place winners on Sunday, and these invites do assure the best-of-the best are represented. Last year our girls took first place at League, EMass and NEC. At Regionals we were knocked out of first place by an invited team and we took second. That team that took first DESERVED the win, so never underestimate the underdog! If you are competing.. you've earned the right to be there! Good luck to all the girls in Worcester!!! Can't wait to see what they all bring
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| Cheereo
November 7, 2011
8:18:59 AM
Entry #: 3832599
| I believe you are corect in your definition of the term QUALIFY, but with a little tweak.. The Qualifying score is determined by the AVERAGE of the 1st/2nd place teams' scores from each region. If a team does QUALIFY, Pop Warner is informing them that their scores met or exceeded the average scores of the 1st/2nd place teams from the different regions, therefore earning the opportunity to advance. I also believe that Waltham has changed it's position this year. They are accepting if they Qualify.
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| cheerluv228
November 7, 2011
8:39:39 AM
Entry #: 3832612
| Correct me if I'm wrong but you're saying that if the 3rd and 4th place teams get scores close to or higher than the 1st or 2nd place team in another conference (for example the top 2 teams on sunday in your division) then they would receive an invite?
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| Coach08
November 7, 2011
8:39:40 AM
Entry #: 3832613
| It should be interesting to see what happens when Derby and Edgewood are entered into this mix. Im not sure who will get invited from Sundays comp but so far moving on we have:
Methuen
Derby
Medford
Edgewood
Invites (in my opinion)
Waltham
Everett
Does anyone have any idea who else looked good on sunday?
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| cheerdad143
November 7, 2011
9:14:09 AM
Entry #: 3832651
| New milford midget med novice was amazing!!!!! Not sure what happened but def had them at 2nd! They should get an invite!
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| ch33r godess
November 7, 2011
9:30:17 AM
Entry #: 3832665
| All the teams from saturday are going to have to bring there A game on the 19th because Edgewood is unbelievable in the medium midget novice.
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| boomer2411
November 7, 2011
9:59:08 AM
Entry #: 3832684
| Thank you for clearing that up, this is going to be an extremely tough division, i also thought that edgewood was great and exciting, i had new milford in second as wll i hope to see them at regionals.
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| Cheereo
November 7, 2011
11:11:05 AM
Entry #: 3832746
| @Boomer, I understand that Edgewood, Derby & New Milford were ALL excellent on Sunday. Although New Milford didn't place, some believe they should have.. Methuen, Medford, Waltham, Taunton & Everettt were great on Saturday. Any one of these teams could have placed 1st, (it was that close). This is exactly the reason why you have invites/qualify. These teams ALL should be competing in the NE Regional Finals!! If they are all participating, this should be one of the most competitive competitions in quite some time... Can you imagine having 7 or 8 teams competing with no clear-cut favorite?? That's what it's all about!
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| star23
November 7, 2011
11:40:53 AM
Entry #: 3832768
| I have to agree with cheereo...Methuen, Medford, Waltham, Taunton & Everettt were great on Saturday....it would be amazing to see them all battle it out, they are ALL so TALENTED!! I watched in amazement on Saturday, all the teams should be very proud...can you imagine what a show they would put on if they all got invited back?! Regardless, all teams and coaches should be very proud of their girls!!!
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| Cheer1970
November 7, 2011
11:45:34 AM
Entry #: 3832773
| Cheerio, TOTALLY AGREE!!! Not only would it be great for the girls competing, but also for the people watching in the stands!!! Anytime you can give these girls a chance to compete at a higher level of competition, the better... The experience alone is worth it!!
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| kuisine
November 7, 2011
12:24:44 PM
Entry #: 3832817
| I am the derby midget coach and last night was just as big of a surprise to us as it was to everyone else. Edgewood was amazing. New Milford was excellent as well. We had some major issues the days before competition.We went out and did our best and with the deductions the other teams received we came out at 2nd place. I can't wait to see everyone at regionals. Good luck.
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| Cheereo
November 7, 2011
1:10:43 PM
Entry #: 3832875
| Kuisine, what were te problems you mentioned and do you know the scores?
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| kuisine
November 7, 2011
2:24:45 PM
Entry #: 3832962
| We lost a girl to a ankle injury the day before competition. We had to redo our pyramid in an hours time the first time we ran thru it fully was on the practice mat. I lost a total of three flyers since our last competition. So we have worked so hard so fast to just be able to compete. I do have our scores.
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| cheermom444
November 7, 2011
5:05:05 PM
Entry #: 3833147
| i believe that Methuen and Medford both deserved the wins on saturday! i cant wait to see who will take it all in regionals next weekend!
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| cheerluv2
November 7, 2011
7:10:36 PM
Entry #: 3833275
| New Milford will be at Regionals.
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| cheercaptain
November 7, 2011
10:04:45 PM
Entry #: 3833400
| I think Huskies deserve the invite they were amazing ! Yes 1 stunt fall but accidents happen . And they did get screwed in New England and they deserve the trophy back for 2nd place cause there the ones who won .
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| Cheer1970
November 7, 2011
10:20:48 PM
Entry #: 3833412
| @Cheercaptain,
How did the Huskies get "screwed in New England"? What trophy are you talking about? Don't be bitter, you should be happy your team qualified!!Congrats to Waltham, Everett & New Milford so far... Should be a great competition!!
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| cheercaptain
November 7, 2011
10:35:47 PM
Entry #: 3833424
| Fyi Everett got 2nd but they messed up all the counts and gave Waltham THEIR 2nd place trophy in EMASS . and they dont want to give it back even though they even win it . But anyways congrats to the teams moving on to Regionals , cant wait to see them :)
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| Coach08
November 7, 2011
10:44:15 PM
Entry #: 3833428
| Cheercaptian, are you referring to the EMASS competition when you say your team got "screwed"? If I remember correctly waltham was called as first...so i don't know why you think they are with holding your second place trophy. They never got a second place trophy in the first place. Please keep the negativity off this sight. Everyone moving on deserves to be there, good luck to all!
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| KiSsY
November 7, 2011
10:51:37 PM
Entry #: 3833437
| I don't know who you are cheercaptain but if you are one of us (EHA) please change your tone* EHA is not to be represented that way* Thank you!
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| cheercaptain
November 7, 2011
10:58:34 PM
Entry #: 3833446
| Methuen got 1st , Everett got 2nd but they called Waltham as 2nd when actually Huskies got 2nd and Waltham got 3rd . and now Waltham doesnt want to give the trophy back to Everett. Im not being negative but i just that Waltham should be a good sport about this and hand back Everett`s trophy and move on to Regionals and try their best because they are a really good team themself . Well good luck to Waltham and Everett and all the other teams in the next competition :)
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| MMDcoaches12
November 7, 2011
11:01:40 PM
Entry #: 3833451
| Wow I absolutely can't wait for this division it's going to be great! I really like all the teams and think that anyone could take home 1st place as for Sunday's teams Edgewood and derby were both great but if new Milford is there don't count them out they are really good this division is going to be fantastic!
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| CHEER64
November 7, 2011
11:04:15 PM
Entry #: 3833453
| Actually they called Waltham First and Methuen Second and the scores were correct but out of order and Methuen was First, Huskies Second and Waltham Third. Three great organizations with Great Teams and Great Directors and Coaching Staff so please don't speak about things you aren't sure about, it just starts problems.
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| Cheer1970
November 7, 2011
11:31:38 PM
Entry #: 3833464
| @Cheercaptain,
You certainly are not acting like a CHEERCAPTAIN... Do you actually believe that Waltham is purposely keeping an EMASS 1st Place Trophy? I highly doubt Waltham would hold on to ANYTHING they they didn't win... And why would Waltham be sending Everett a 1st Place Trophy? Everett came in 2nd.. I hope you don't represent Everett, I think you are posting these negative comments just to create a stir... These are class organizations!! I honestly believe you are NOT from Everett, just someone looking to start controversy!! Good luck to ALL the Teams, you deserve it, and pay no attention to the CHEERCAPTAIN!!
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| Lynette
November 8, 2011
7:53:47 AM
Entry #: 3833573
| Hi: Unfortunately there was a mistake made. it was not in the scores, but the final score and when the tallying was done, the sorting in the computer didn't sort it correctly, so that is why Waltham was announced as the winner, Methuen second and the huskies not announced at all. The error was found after we got home and started looking at the score sheets. We are human. people and mistakes are made, they have been corrected and the teams have been told.Trophies will be returned to their respective teams. Please do not continue on this forum bashing people for doing the best they can. That division could of gone to anyone and,I am sure Waltham will qualify to move on. Good luck to all at Regionals.!! Let's not get this board shut down because of an honest mistake!!
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| cheercoachd
November 8, 2011
8:23:51 AM
Entry #: 3833588
| getting back to the great teams in midget medium novice, i thought that edgewood was incredible. i watched both days of competition this weekend and edgewood is definitely the team to beat! methuen, medford, derby, new milford, everett, waltham, tauton - were all great too! i couldn't believe how equally talented all the teams were...i just think that edgewood set themselves apart from the rest! even still, this division is going to be crazy close at regionals! can't wait to watch it!
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| MMDcoaches12
November 8, 2011
10:38:39 AM
Entry #: 3833700
| I honestly think this division will depend on what the judges are looking for that day. Over the years I have noticed sometimes a team with high difficulty and maybe a minor bobble will win over the team with low difficulty but a clean routine on the other hand I have also seen teams that have a high difficulty one minor bobble and an amazing routine not place and the teams that are clean but maybe don't have as hard of a routine place top 2. Lets just hope the kids bring their A game and have some fun! Good luck to all!
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| Cheerfan44
November 8, 2011
3:05:48 PM
Entry #: 3833994
| Just my thoughts, you have Methuen, Medford, Waltham, Everett, Edgewood, Derby & New Milford. From what I've seen and read, both of these competitions could have been won by any of these teams (they are that close). I can't pick who will advance... Could be any of them... This is going to make for a GREAT day!!! 7 Teams advancing, were there any more??
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| cheermom444
November 8, 2011
5:10:02 PM
Entry #: 3834109
| EVERYONE BETTER BRING IT THE 19TH! cause this is the most intense division this year for sure
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| cheerROX
November 8, 2011
5:45:57 PM
Entry #: 3834148
| Methuen, Medford, Waltham, Everett, Edgewood, Derby & New Milford - Got to see both qualifiers and I must say, this is a TOUGH division. Could have been anyone's day. Very glad to see Waltham accepted the invite, cause it's well deserved. Good luck to all!
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| Cheermom01
November 8, 2011
9:12:09 PM
Entry #: 3834310
| This has been one of the toughest division of competition I have seen in years! I LOVE it. This is what competition should be like for ALL teams involved. No easy way to nationals, tough it out show what you got and never give up! Fight til the end.
This is one division I am soo glad I'm not a judge in. I wonder what happens if there's a tie. This would not be impossible since all these teams have such great routines and they are all on top of their game every time so far.
Good Luck to ALL the girls competing at Regionals. Wish there was a way to send ALL the teamsthese are truly the Best of NE by far!
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| CheeringsBeeast(;
November 9, 2011
3:31:31 PM
Entry #: 3834750
| So who is moving on definitely from Qualifiers..?
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