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TOPIC: sportsmanship |
| Big L
October 14, 2012 9:01:07 AM
Entry #: 3992647
| I would like to thank Burlington B Squad for being in the back during the morning session. They played games with many cities and made it a fun day . Thank you from Malden D Squad
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| Team CF
October 14, 2012 9:07:48 AM
Entry #: 3992650
| Does anyone know how the girl from Burlington is doing? The one that was taken out on stretcher. I hope all is well with her.
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| Pro.Cheer
October 15, 2012 8:54:23 AM
Entry #: 3993093
| I hope the girl is okay. too bad the coach doesn't read the new rules this year. The girls would NOT be doing that pass and she would NOT be hurt. READ YOUR RULES>>>>>>>>>>
Flips are allowed but may not exceed one flipping and one twisting rotation. Flips may be performed in alternate positions (layout, x-out, pike, etc.) Forward 3/4 flips to the seat and toe-pitch flips are prohibited. No tumbling is allowed after a flip (Exception: tumbling out of a front flip is allowed).
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| totalcheer
October 15, 2012 10:35:15 AM
Entry #: 3993137
| I also hope the Burlington Cheerleader is ok and wish her a speedy recovery!
I agree with Pro.Cheer, there were a lot of teams in both the league competitions these past two weeks doing illegal stunts, pyramids and tumbling in their respective divisions. A team should not be able to move onto the next competition if they are performing illegal moves in their routine!!COACHES PLEASE READ THE NEW RULE BOOK FOR THIS YEAR!!!!
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| FootballCheery
October 16, 2012 12:27:40 PM
Entry #: 3994013
| She is fine - just a muscle strain.
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| FootballCheery
October 16, 2012 12:39:18 PM
Entry #: 3994021
| I agree as well - however - there were also quite a few teams that were not in the correct category (PW1, PW2, PW3, PW4) as well.
The Region should be the ones setting the levels of skill for the cheerleaders NOT the Associations - too many games being played.
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| Cheer!
October 16, 2012 12:42:48 PM
Entry #: 3994026
| I agree completely about teams not being in the correct skill level. I have heard of a PW team being PW1 That level is baically Tiny Mite...
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| CheerEPie
October 16, 2012 1:31:20 PM
Entry #: 3994076
| Please stop saying that PW1 is Tiny or Mitey Mite level as that is simply not true. It is basically what the Novice category used to be in Pop Warner in 2008 and prior - with some minor differences in tumbling. I understand that you are saying some teams are performing at level 1 instead of level 2 or 3 for that matter and you MAY have a point. But I am just trying to correct you on the reference to it being for Tiny and Mitey Mites only. There are some A, B, and C teams competing at that level because it is the safest level for them to be at. They may either have very inexperienced girls or coaches or both. But its insulting to them to say that PW1 is for Tiny Mites only. Its not the first time I've seen the comment on the forum so I felt the need to say something.
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| Cheer!
October 16, 2012 1:34:58 PM
Entry #: 3994079
| The way it was presented to our league is that PW1 should really only be TM or MM, so i apologize if you found my comment mean There are also many teams that are at a much lower level then they should be. This is so unfair to the squads that really need to be there. Our assoc. cheer coordinator would never put a team lower than they should be.
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| cheerblonde
October 16, 2012 1:40:07 PM
Entry #: 3994086
| Bravo Cheere... PW1 is a stepping stone to a higher performance level. Just because a team may be the age of a B or C team doesn't make their performance level that high. I went to the CT State Comp and they had a JRM level1 team from New Fairfield that was awesome. So let's just respect all the levels of cheer and not equate a level with an age division.
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| Cheercrazy
October 16, 2012 1:52:22 PM
Entry #: 3994098
| cheerblonde, what I think they are trying to say is that not everyone declares the correct division. Teams in the past have clearly chosen a level where they will have a guarantee to nationals. Novice is a basic division where you learn the foundations of cheerleading (front and back walkovers, cartwheels, preps, libs at prep level). The few level one teams I saw over the past few weekends were great but they could have been pushed to go to level 2 "novice", especially at the Junior Midget or Midget level.
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| Cheercrazy
October 16, 2012 1:56:14 PM
Entry #: 3994102
| I apologize I did not see the comments above, my intention was not to put down the level 1 teams. I simply feel that some teams should not be in the level 1 category. Teams that haven't made it to nationals seem to be using it at an easy road. I understand new programs, cheerleaders and coaches being level 1. But if you have experienced coaches and or/cheerleaders you should not be declaring level 1. There should be a rule that you need to provide proof of either inexperienced coaches that can't teach the skills or brand new cheerleaders in order to declare level 1. Just my opinion.
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| cheerblonde
October 16, 2012 1:56:40 PM
Entry #: 3994104
| True ... all I am saying is that age does not determine performance level.
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| cheerluv2
October 16, 2012 2:02:18 PM
Entry #: 3994110
| I have also seen it the other way around. I have seen JPW teams that do not have Level 2 skills that would have done much better as a Level 1 team. Some younger teams are just not ready to cradle or do highs safely for competition.
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| Cheercrazy
October 16, 2012 2:04:34 PM
Entry #: 3994113
| I 100% agree with you. I think my main point is people don't always choose the correct level or choose a level for the wrong reasons. I full support teams going level 1 if they are truly level 1. I apologize if I gave off a different vibe.
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| CheerEPie
October 16, 2012 2:33:44 PM
Entry #: 3994151
| Cheer! - I am with you on that point though since neither our association coordinator nor league coordinator would allow any team to declare at a level that was either too low or too high for that matter.
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| jmCheer
October 16, 2012 10:52:22 PM
Entry #: 3994526
| I know what you are saying Cheercrazy. I watched a team that is listed as level 1 category and I know the girls on that team have skills above level 1. My option is that they are using it as an easy road since most if not all the cheerleaders on the team do have experience along with the coach. How can they call it a competition when they are listed below their qualifications?
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| MMDcoaches12
October 17, 2012 5:28:51 PM
Entry #: 3994993
| This is only my opinion but I have seen teams in the past and now that are clearly competing at a lower level then they are capable, which either gives them an easy road to Nationals or gives them an advantage over teams that genuinely belong in that level. Personally I think that if there is skill for say a level 3 or 4 you should do it because in the long run the cheerleaders will benefit from learning new and harder skills if they stay novice forever they will be at a disadvantage when trying out for a Middle School or HS team because they have never competed at that level. I just think instead of taking the "easy road" why not try to teach and learn new skills especially if the potential is there. In the long run it is not fair to the kids they don't learn new skills and for a team that is truly at a lower level never gets a fair shot. Just my opinion and something to think about
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| Cheer_tumbler1414
October 23, 2012 5:21:00 PM
Entry #: 3998908
| The Burlington girl didn't hurt herself in "that" pass she was already hurt. She hurt herself in the opening of the routine as a result she was unable to throw her pass.
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| Big L
October 24, 2012 1:38:58 PM
Entry #: 3999502
| just wondering if anyone read the topic . Again Thank you Burlington B what great sportsmanship!!!!!
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| 5678Boom
October 26, 2012 2:23:14 PM
Entry #: 4000706
| Thank you CheerBlonde. Those New Fairfield Falcons were awesome at States and that team has a number of brand new cheerleaders. For some reason New Fairfield has more girls joining at an older age than Tiny Mitey level.
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| 5678Boom
October 26, 2012 2:26:54 PM
Entry #: 4000707
| Sorry Big L. I read the topic because I think Sportsmanship is so important. But I had to respond to the P1 comments as well.
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