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TOPIC: Win with class/Lose with class |
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| Fences77
July 14, 2015
5:58:14 PM
Entry #: 4173496
| Good day gents
Another great summer of ball so far, lets keep it rolling. We have a terrific league for a lot of reasons, none bigger than the top notch guys who respect each other, the sport, and are always staying classy. There will always be boneheads, but the more we can weed out the blatantly disrespectful moves the better.
Case in point from last night. :
Happened to catch the last half of the MAS/Tar game MAS (some serious bats there) was laying what looked to be an impressive beating on Tar (clearly having an off night). Late in the game the player in question hit a beauty to the gap and had a stand-up triple but decided to hustle his ass off and stretch it out to an inside-the-park homer with the score being 24-3 IN THE 6TH INNING! Pretty bush-league. Way to go superstar. Probably a bit rare to see that with so many class act guys in the league which I think makes it even more embarrassing when it does happen. Win with class. Lose with class. Simple stuff.
For the few who don’t seem to get it, some clarification on what sportsmanship really is would go a long way and help in making our league even better. Aside from that sour note... a beauty night in the USPL
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| LB4LB
July 14, 2015
7:12:26 PM
Entry #: 4173506
| What a shocker... mas has no class.
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| Larry))
July 15, 2015
12:10:30 AM
Entry #: 4173562
| Here we go again. Take away the M and add a S to the end of the name. Guess what ? You got the definition of that team.
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| Knight
July 15, 2015
7:03:54 AM
Entry #: 4173572
| Hey I would rather lose a game with respect then win being on a team that has no class and acts like scum, when will they learn?
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| Steaner Jr
July 15, 2015
11:23:34 AM
Entry #: 4173618
| To be clear, this was a BEAT DOWN by a very strong MAS team that hit the ball all over the park and while there were 2 instances by ONE individual that were a bit questionable, they had no impact on the result of the game nor should they be used as a reflection on the team as a whole. Some guys just don't get it.
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| Purelife
July 15, 2015
2:39:59 PM
Entry #: 4173648
| Why don't they comprehend it?
1) not capable of getting it
2) bad leadership
3) all of the above
Respond with your answer.
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| Birkey
July 15, 2015
5:59:36 PM
Entry #: 4173676
| This situation is very sad, can we get some help for these players
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| grass eye
July 15, 2015
8:27:30 PM
Entry #: 4173697
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All these lies is bout a serious beat down.
If you never was a good player, I cain't hate you
You know life is one time, you cain't take two
You seem to think cause you ain't as good as our team we should hold up
It ain't yo' fault, did you do it?
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| Faux
July 16, 2015
1:02:01 PM
Entry #: 4173802
| Huh
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| JAG28
July 17, 2015
10:02:05 AM
Entry #: 4173900
| Dear Glassy Eyes - stay out of the outfield you've been sniffing too much grass.
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| daump
July 17, 2015
8:40:34 PM
Entry #: 4173990
| Hey Purelife,
The answer to your question is definitely number three.
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| Bigelow
July 18, 2015
11:10:23 AM
Entry #: 4174032
| Number two for sure, the history of this team and leader speaks loud and clear.
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| Hard Express
July 19, 2015
10:50:25 AM
Entry #: 4174116
| #2....
This guy has to go!
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| Deez N
July 20, 2015
10:24:32 AM
Entry #: 4174244
| The problem is there is no structure in this league. The old guys or not as skilled guys cannot compete in the league or think that simply still have it. There are many players that should be in the masters and still playing in the open division....sorry but ur time is up and should move on. There should be an A and B division also to differentiate the different skill levels.
The original poster jus cannot hang in the league anymore and simply will complain about everything when he loses. If ur down lots. Simple solution. Get three puts. Of you can't do that you shouldn't be in the league.
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| JAG28
July 20, 2015
1:34:57 PM
Entry #: 4174289
| Agreed Deez N.
A + B Divisions / Excellent + Good
If over 50 go to Masters - with 3 or 4 "master players" can be protected on an A or B team.
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| Joe S
July 20, 2015
10:27:27 PM
Entry #: 4174379
| Wow got to M5 tonight watching MAS vs Roberts before our game MAS was down by 15 runs in their last at bat they scored18 runs to win 29-27 very impressive considering they only had 8 regular players and one reserve missing their top 4 guys
MAS Dutch Tar DST a class of their own
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| Usedup
July 21, 2015
9:12:52 AM
Entry #: 4174423
| That's really really interesteing.....during our game no one was watching....,,,that was a good story..... you obviously play for mas....nice try
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| Toilettes
July 21, 2015
3:01:13 PM
Entry #: 4174492
| Busted.
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| Knight
July 22, 2015
9:37:16 AM
Entry #: 4174605
| Hey pure life,
The answer is number 2. History repeats itself for more than ten years with this guy.
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| Larry))
July 23, 2015
2:34:33 PM
Entry #: 4174844
| Cheaters
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| LB4LB
July 24, 2015
1:40:00 PM
Entry #: 4175013
| I agree with Larry.
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| Eau55
July 25, 2015
6:25:06 PM
Entry #: 4175139
| In reviewing their wins ( most games not by much ) it would seeme to be they are very lucky to win most games. The fact that they gave a LONG history of cheating is distributing to a mature new guy to this fabulous league.
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| MBA89
July 26, 2015
10:43:35 PM
Entry #: 4175306
| Two awesome weeks at the cottage and I come home this evening to read this baloney. Not surprised by this actions of this guy or for the team. Shocked that this runt does not get his butt handed to him.
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| Guy Smiley
July 27, 2015
11:38:06 PM
Entry #: 4175540
| The laughable point in this entire thread is the fact that Joe got exposed. Who da ink he fooring us?
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| steanersr
July 28, 2015
1:00:53 PM
Entry #: 4175631
| Had to respond to the post by Deez N and backed up by JAG28, whoever you are.. This league has been around long before you were and many long hours by many great people have put their time into creating one of the best rec slo pitch leagues around! The structure you are saying is lacking could have been years ago decided to just keep moving the age up to protect all the players who want to play and not allow any 25 year olds in and let them form their own league!! But instead, rules like allowing 25 year old players in continue, allowing Father's to play with their sons!! Brothers to play with Brothers etc. all in the effort to enhance the league.. Then unfortunately there are guys like you who don't get what the league is all about. Scouts have passed you by a long time ago and by the way, it is a rec slo pitch league you are in which is a community based league for anyone who wants to play!! Obviously you are not Fathers and with your own comments if you were doesn't seem like you would want to play with your son!! That is too bad as it is one of the best things we have ever done as a league!! I will decide when to move on and it will never be driven by others making the decision for me. You too will grow old, and who knows may have a bad knee/hip that may slow you down, but it should never stop you from trying to enjoy the things you have always enjoyed as long as you possibly can!! I play with a great bunch of guys WHO GET IT.. They have grown up around my house and have turned into great young men who I enjoy playing some ball with and having a pop or two after!!! That is what this league is all about and hopefully continues to stand for!! If you think you are too good to play with some old men as you put it, it might be time you move on and find that competitive slo pitch league run with a better structure than the USPL!! Good luck with that..
Signed - Vic Steane with only a love handle!!!
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| Tar22
July 28, 2015
1:48:03 PM
Entry #: 4175642
| I could not agree more with Vic!
As my good friend put it... "Some guys just don't get it"
Andrew McNeilage -Tar 22
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| Razor50
July 28, 2015
4:59:14 PM
Entry #: 4175679
| Way to go, Vic.
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| Jets6400
July 29, 2015
1:32:24 AM
Entry #: 4175778
| Great comments Vic, Mas does not "get it".
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| JAG28
July 29, 2015
11:35:13 AM
Entry #: 4175824
| Vic, my apologizes for not including “father and sons” and “brothers” playing together in the same division on the same team. And I don’t recall anything about “too good to play with some old men”. Considering I’m a father (2 beautiful daughters and grandfather of 3) I wouldn’t make that comment.
Reality is that when you get older your reflexes and speed slow down. I would really be concerned about getting hurt. I also believe it’s more fun playing against guys of your similar age / abilities / interests / values / appreciation of the game and recreational competitive level. To me that’s fun.
I don’t know what the age it is to move on (everyone is different). I’m saying decide on an age maybe 50?? And move on /up. Of course allow father and sons / brothers and brothers to stick together in the open division – and allow “open” teams to protect 4/5 – 50 year olds who still wish to play in the open division.
This may help the league avoid emails before the playoffs to “mature guys” saying don’t show up. Or even forum comment “pitchers mound” of July 28th – “ I can't help but notice people that are clearly using shaved bats”, It seems there are more and more who don’t get it. Or, from their actions (which happen to be illegal) are they supporting an A division and B division of play in a recreational league.
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| Deez N
July 29, 2015
12:09:36 PM
Entry #: 4175835
| Clearly steaner doesn't get it and not with the times. As I do respect where the league originated from, unfortunately the league is very competitive now. Jus ask dst duchess Mas etc....these teams are very competitive every night and can see that with their rosters and moves every year. Times are changing and the league is A1 in my books but again when their is no structure, you will see people complaining about minor things, ie hitting up the middle or a guy running out an insider the parker. It seems like the only ones complaining are the old guys that can't compete anymore with the 25 yr old. If we are a fun league y complain bout a guy hitting an insider the parker. Maybe that's what he lives for and will take it any chance he gets no matter the score. Times have changed and so has the league. I play this league cuz it's fun and competitive. If we are a family league DON'T complain about minor issues. Let them play!!!
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| That.Guy
July 29, 2015
12:21:17 PM
Entry #: 4175837
| JAG28: Then you get into the situation where the league would be quite literally forcing people off teams aka league enforced MASsacre of the old guys. Not okay. I've played with guys that are twice my age in this league that are better than I will ever be.
The fact is, most of us play to meet people, enjoy pops after the game, and get out and have some fun once or twice a week. If you're a dull-object that tosses their bat, swears after a pop-up with children around, or peels out of the parking lot doing 70km/h after a loss....you're probably not playing in the right league.
Deez N - You're this years forum troll! Congrats! I look forward to you 'gettin super DRUNKKZz breh on Friday of plyoffz and puking on the field'.
You are 'Softball Guy': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMfqbR8Ujlk
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| Steaner Jr
July 29, 2015
1:21:19 PM
Entry #: 4175844
| Deez N, the fact that I have to address this truly creative handle says everything I need to know about you. Keep the dream alive kid! You're just ONE scout away! Until then, I'll grab a cold one and enjoy this league for what it is while playing with great guys of all ages and skill levels.
Cheers.
Ryan Steane #19 Tar
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| Tar22
July 29, 2015
1:41:46 PM
Entry #: 4175847
| Deez N - before calling out other people for "clearly not getting it" you should at least put your name behind your comments, so we know who were talking to
Andrew McNeilage Tar #22.
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| TJO5252
July 29, 2015
2:18:30 PM
Entry #: 4175851
| Deez N ... Show up at the AGM and air your grievances or structural issues. This is one of the best run leagues around, if you don't like it .... c'est la vie bud!
TO #52 KWL
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| steanersr
July 29, 2015
2:49:22 PM
Entry #: 4175855
| Deez N, I am so glad that you are not part of my team and never would be. Your attitude is exactly what this league doesn't need. I feel sorry for you and the player who lives for an inside the park homerun when they are winning by 25 runs.. It is quite obvious that sportsmanship is not part of your make up. No need to respond as it is not worth the time to read.. Good luck with the rest of the season..
Vic Steane #14 Tar
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| Deez N
July 29, 2015
2:55:06 PM
Entry #: 4175856
| Ok Tar guys...kudos to you guys for backing each other up. Especially if it's ur dad. I would do the same thing. If ithis league is a rec league. Let the guys play then and do their thing no matter the score without complaining or bashing guys on other teams for doing so. I play for fun and know I'm not he best player. @TO not once did I say I didn't like the league. If you read my post earlier I said I enjoy the this fun and competitive league. I've only responded to this original post cuz you guys are bashing a guy who hit an inside the parker when up 20 runs. If it's not a competitive league. Y care if he runs the bases. I was only giving my opinion because I see all the top teams winning all the time and the weak ones losing and with some structure we wouldn't have teams that think they are the best and unbeatable.
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| Harry Package
July 29, 2015
3:38:21 PM
Entry #: 4175864
| Deez N, your inability to discuss the many points brought up in response to your rant and your blanket coverage of the older guys, really highlight your immaturity. Read the posted remarks, comprehend, then reply directly to the statements made. This League has been in place for the Town’s people for a long time. 24 teams strong and seemingly still growing. It shouldn’t have to change for you guy, I think your challengers are correct and loud and clear here, you’re in the wrong league Dude.
Look, I’m one of the old, fat, limping guys. Way past my prime but I still pride myself in pulling my cap down tight and playing the game hard when I’m on the field despite the score. In my 25 years here, I’ve never once complained about teams running up the score on me. The way I see it, I’m still better than most younger guys who play my position and if I do happen to line a hard single to an outfielder who thinks he can throw my hobbling ass out before I can get to 1B, then so be it, throw me out Superstar. Hasn’t happened yet. I know the ball will end up in the dugout with me standing on 2B way more often than you actually manage to throw me out at 1B. Take a real close look at the top teams in the league. Way more 40+ guys on those rosters than under 35 guys. Knowledge and experience really do mean something in this game. Reality is, the young guys may have the tools, but the old guys have the tool boxes and based strictly on this seasons Win Percentages, the teams with the older guys seem to be doing much better than the young punks with your shaved bats and bags.
Ya so anyways, despite what anyone thinks, I’m hanging in the Open Division for a while longer in hopes of playing and sharing some laughs with my 2 sons and their pals in the coming years. I’m gonna crush beers after games with my squad, support league ventures and get togethers like the Draft, AGM and Kelsey’s Golf tournament. It’s all part of the USPL fun. If I felt I couldn’t play here anymore, I wouldn’t, but that’s definitely not the case yet and some immature ghost on this Forum ain’t gonna change my mind. So just CTFO Dickz N and if you’re that much better than me, please just show me on the field and I’ll go away quietly. No need for all this unsubstantiated squakin’ hiding behind your Mom’s skirt, son… you officially suck for that !
Happy and safe Long Weekend to you all and see ya on the field…
Cheers, Rick A
(HD # 44)
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| JAG28
July 29, 2015
3:38:37 PM
Entry #: 4175865
| That Guy – I don’t know the numbers but I would be surprised if any (many) teams in the Open Divisions have more than 5 guys over 50.
And those 5 guys would exclude father/son and brother/brother. So if you consider that – then I guess you are forcing the 6th and 7th players over 50 year old to the Masters.
Let’s have a show of hands from the Open Division from teams who have one half of their team over 50.
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| Razor50
July 29, 2015
4:14:45 PM
Entry #: 4175870
| That verbal beat down was the equivalent of beating a team by 25 runs..........
Bum Dum,
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| Todd M
July 29, 2015
4:29:20 PM
Entry #: 4175881
| Well said Rick. As someone who uses the website primarily to find out what time my next game is, it amazes me how much time other people must have in their lives to spend so much of it complaining about things in the league and its daily happenings. You would think that with all this spare time they could manage to spell full words (or is that wordz). To say this league has changed and become competitive is a total disrespect to the many great ball players that have played over the years. As someone who has spent the better part of the past 44 years living in town I seem to recall a lot of great competitive games (often with bats that you would find inferior for even banging in second base). You now want more “structure”. I am sorry, but this needs a little bit of clarification. You mean you want more rules? More divisions (oh that is right we need to separate the “expert” players from the “good” and the “over 50 players”. More structure like the hockey leagues around the city with their dozens of divisions? (ask around that is a disaster). You want players “who no longer have it” to step aside so we can all watch you play “expert level” slopitch? Won’t that make your mom proud. Before you start preaching about people who no longer have it perhaps you should ask what it exactly is you have and if you actually have it? It definitely sounds like you don’t have an appreciation for what the town or this league is, and where it came from which has made it so unique and successful. I loved growing up as a bat boy watching McKenzie Trailers win 4 championships following my dad into Calathumpians (now the Arms for those newer to Unionville). I learned that the baseball was only part of the equation and that somewhere between friendships formed, beers drank, even some business exchanged, there was some decent baseball played. I have loved the friendship I have gained from the past 19 years in the league and each year I meet more people (most of them younger than me and we seem to still manage to have shared interests values etc). I love watching the fathers and sons play, it is a very special thing I wish everyone had the chance to do. I hope to do it one day with my son. Until then I will continue to enjoy playing with my friends, and even some of their kids who have joined the team. I suggest that for those that want to run the old guys out of the league perhaps you spend some time getting to know them and learn a bit about the history of the league. We are all adults. I am sure as grown men we can figure out on our own when it is time to move to a different division/league or retire. Each situation will be individual and should not be regulated. Somehow our team has found a way to manage that and we are probably one of the older teams. If at the end of the day you don’t like it then as it has been said previously you can voice your opinions in public (not hiding behind a cool uzerame) or you can find another more competitive “expert” league.
Todd McDowell
#22 Harding Display
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| JAG28
July 30, 2015
11:43:18 AM
Entry #: 4175989
| Well stated Todd, I bow to your experience in the league and your sincere comments on the “integrity and concept” of the league.
Possible the value in the forum is when opinions can be voiced.
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| Moulton
July 31, 2015
3:24:04 PM
Entry #: 4176189
| Deez... Plays for MAS
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| injury prone
July 31, 2015
8:20:06 PM
Entry #: 4176225
| Of course he does Moulten. That is based on what information? Just stirring the MAS pot again? I suggest you move on. Hopefully there are more pressing issues in your life??????
Garr - MAS
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| Moulton
August 3, 2015
11:21:51 AM
Entry #: 4176606
| First of all, please learn to speeeel. The name is Moulton and I am entitled to my opinion.
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| Faux
August 4, 2015
3:23:08 PM
Entry #: 4176817
| Deez N is gone quite
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| Barnstormer
August 5, 2015
3:53:11 PM
Entry #: 4177059
| I'd like to speak up and be the voice of reason on behalf of the "youth" subsection here and just make it clear that not all of the under 35s in this league feel even remotely similar to some of these jagoffs who are apparently still waiting for the scouts to come calling. Sadly as a 29 year old I see far too many other 'young' (I use this term subjectively now) guys with entirely the wrong attitude, but just because these guys are often the loudest doesn't mean their attitude is prevalent.
As someone who is now a Team Rep for a team with 7 (that's more than 5 for JAG28's reference) guys who are either 50+ or approaching it I can unequivocally say that some of these older guys who apparently don't have it any more are not only our best players but also the guys who stay in the lot for a pop and some laughs after - win OR loss.
If you're 25+ and not playing for money somewhere, your "career" is over. Have some respect for the guys in this league - of all ages - and play the game hard but intelligently. Hell, even in competitive ball it would be seen as poor sportsmanship to leg a triple into an inside the parker up 25 runs, so it's a terrible argument.
I for one am quite glad this league embraces players of all ages as it's great to play against both friend's of my dad's I've known growing as well as guys I've played alongside or against since I was a kid. I only hope to remain in this league long enough that somebody is trying to kick me out of it eventually too.
Kyle
#9 Union
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| Network Man
August 6, 2015
8:20:26 PM
Entry #: 4177317
| Well written. Only one team has the problem. They make masses of themselves.
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| Bigelow
August 8, 2015
12:46:18 PM
Entry #: 4177575
| How did this tread change from running up the score and acting like an idiot to older guys been removed from the team?
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| Bud Wiser
August 9, 2015
8:57:32 PM
Entry #: 4177770
| Deez changed it to deflect of the real issue originally presented here.
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| Jets6400
August 10, 2015
10:11:33 PM
Entry #: 4177963
| Deez has lost his phone or broke his fingers.
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| 366924
August 11, 2015
5:36:18 PM
Entry #: 4178101
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I’ve looked at the details of the threats and the insults that a certain team receives, the more some of them seem to fit into the old patterns of prejudice and assumption that surrounds this team.
“It doesn’t much matter what line of argument you take as a player on this team." If you venture into traditional uspl territory, the abuse comes anyway. It’s not what you say that prompts it—it’s the fact that you are saying it.” Such online interjections should be condemned.
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| Faux
August 16, 2015
7:15:15 PM
Entry #: 4178700
| Stay on the point, what can we do about these clowns?
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| Bud Wiser
August 19, 2015
2:45:39 PM
Entry #: 4179118
| I found out Deez....
Just when it seemed the 2016 US presidential race couldn’t get any more crowded, or colorful, another oddball candidate has put in a bid for the White House — under the name Deez Nuts.
A USPL player could be the new president of the USA.
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| LB4LB
August 20, 2015
4:33:36 PM
Entry #: 4179240
| I'm a little repulsed that my mind can only imagine "deez nuts" said that one specific way. Come on out little fella.
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| uarms
August 21, 2015
7:28:36 PM
Entry #: 4179371
| Ask not what deez nuts can do for you, instead ask yourself "what can u do for deez nuts"
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| Diesel Train
August 22, 2015
8:04:52 PM
Entry #: 4179465
| Is this what this website has come to, constant pedantic crying and whining? I haven’t been on in awhile due to circumstances beyond my control and haven’t even been able to get down to the ballpark as much as I would like (which is actually a blessing for my teammates). However when I finally get here all I see is crying about the website and how a certain team ran up the score. Now if you aren’t happy with the way things are going instead of ragging about it how about you do something really unexpected and offer to kick in a bit. I know none of you have probably ever run a league so you don’t actually know what’s involved but it is a massive undertaking.
I can only speak for myself but when I ran a team it took numerous hours out of my life that I can’t replace. Now multiply that by 26 teams in addition to the teams who can’t follow simple instructions and you have a nightmare on your hands.
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| LB4LB
August 23, 2015
7:15:19 PM
Entry #: 4179535
| Crawl back into your hole and stay
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| Larry))
August 25, 2015
10:40:40 AM
Entry #: 4179731
| This guy is s joke.
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| Bud Wiser
September 1, 2015
12:47:36 PM
Entry #: 4180431
| Where are you Deez????
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| tuck00
September 2, 2015
8:14:50 PM
Entry #: 4180591
| this sis a crap shoot, any team can get steamy and pull of a miracle, don't count out teams 10 to 12
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| grass eye
September 5, 2015
10:48:00 AM
Entry #: 4180803
| Not really braaa!
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