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TOPIC: Rules |
| L-- Dream
August 16, 2023 10:29:23 AM
Entry #: 4353259
| Batter/runner hits ground ball toward SS. SS throws the ball wide, 1B fielder steps into the base path and caught the ball, then the BR runs into him. (They're ok, hugged each other to prevent falling)
We all thought it's an out, but ump calls the fielder for obstructing by being in the base path and award the BR first base. Is that right?
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| Local 1134
August 16, 2023 12:08:40 PM
Entry #: 4353261
| If the umpire judged that the fielder coming into the base path caused the BR to slow down or alter their path then it is obstruction. Your scenario sounds to me like I would not have obstruction, and I call it more often than most umpires, but it could be. Sounds to me like an umpire that just got told what the obstruction rule is and wanted to call it.
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| bugatti
August 16, 2023 11:18:41 PM
Entry #: 4353266
| The fielder had to move from 1B toward homeplate direction to catch the ball. The BR was already running hard and was close so could not change direction, and ran into the fielder. It was actually our BR, so our team all thought it was an out and were getting our gloves to go on the field. Then we were all surprised the ump called it obstruction, and awarded our BR the base.
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| Birkey
August 17, 2023 5:32:17 PM
Entry #: 4353270
| Our umpires are very good.
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| Yaya
August 19, 2023 2:00:53 PM
Entry #: 4353274
| Exceptional would be a better description for the boys in blue.
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| Knight
August 20, 2023 2:52:40 AM
Entry #: 4353278
| A wee bit more conciseness on the illegal ball would be appreciated.
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| robokill
August 20, 2023 2:51:10 PM
Entry #: 4353283
| Infield fly rule
This is perhaps one of the most straightforward rules in the book that all too frequently gets overcomplicated.
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| silverfox
August 21, 2023 7:43:32 AM
Entry #: 4353286
| Infield fly is only possible with less than two outs?
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| 360oBB
August 21, 2023 12:21:10 PM
Entry #: 4353290
| "...with ordinary effort..."
This part is where things can get a little tricky. What is "ordinary effort?" This is entirely left up to the judgment of the plate umpire. Typically, if a fielder has to break into an all-out run, this would not be considered "ordinary effort." Some umpires consider it ordinary effort if the fielder does not have to turn his back to the infield. Some umpires consider it an ordinary effort if the fielder doesn't have to do more than a light jog. All of these umpires are well within their rights to use these as measures for how they define "ordinary effort," as this is a judgment call.
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| Peatsum
August 22, 2023 8:27:54 AM
Entry #: 4353304
| This rule rarely happens.
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| Mike&Mike
August 23, 2023 11:06:50 PM
Entry #: 4353318
| We understand the importance of good sportsmanship and fair umpiring in this league. It is our hope that all teams and participants will share this belief and reflect it in their behaviour on and off the field.
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| robokill
August 24, 2023 10:08:38 PM
Entry #: 4353328
| our umpires make very few errors
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| Jets6400
August 25, 2023 10:28:21 PM
Entry #: 4353333
| They are truly better than other league umps.
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| tswear
August 27, 2023 8:53:40 AM
Entry #: 4353339
| They are amazing!
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| tuck00
August 28, 2023 12:05:46 AM
Entry #: 4353351
| The umpire makes all calls throughout the game when utilizing the One Umpire System. However, given the vastness of the field and the multitude of occurrences that can take place, it becomes necessary for the umpire to move about the diamond in order to obtain the best viewpoint and ensure that their calls are accurate.
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| Peatsum
August 29, 2023 10:02:20 AM
Entry #: 4353370
| Slo pitch umps. There’s real men’s attempting to play baseball all over and these guys are getting tough over choosing to play with 60ft base paths, juiced composite bats and hitting off a guy throwing a massive ball underhand, then they complain if the ump misses a close call. Play ball and close your mouth.
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| ParAvion
August 30, 2023 11:21:56 PM
Entry #: 4353381
| Will two umpires be present for the playoffs?
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| Birkey
August 31, 2023 9:35:58 AM
Entry #: 4353383
| One at Milly 4 and one at Milly 5
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| Ethos71
September 3, 2023 8:38:54 AM
Entry #: 4353402
| I love the fact that all the playoff rules are defined up front on this site. Avoids conflicts.
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| Redkel1
September 5, 2023 1:56:41 AM
Entry #: 4353423
| The home team must bat in the bottom of the seventh inning if they are behind by 6 runs or fewer. This is just crazy!
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| Faux
September 5, 2023 11:03:41 AM
Entry #: 4353426
| Breathing exercises and yoga are the keys to surging deep into September.
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| Purelife
September 5, 2023 10:51:51 PM
Entry #: 4353434
| Paul Love may not lose another game this year.
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| silverfox
September 6, 2023 6:05:47 AM
Entry #: 4353436
| Not sure that will happen.
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| L-- Dream
September 7, 2023 7:49:44 PM
Entry #: 4353455
| Games are unpredictable the regular season's top team rarely wins the championship.
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| Yaya
September 9, 2023 9:50:36 AM
Entry #: 4353470
| All of the pretender say that
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| bugatti
September 11, 2023 11:00:24 AM
Entry #: 4353482
| let's get some predictions on the seniors division first round
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| RRForever
September 13, 2023 4:02:58 PM
Entry #: 4353512
| Easy one
Love VS Active for all the marbles
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| Green Balls
September 14, 2023 8:57:26 AM
Entry #: 4353517
| Active Green and Ross have a few holes.
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| Eau55
September 14, 2023 9:06:07 PM
Entry #: 4353527
| Everyone has a few holes, some have big gaps.
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| MI5
September 15, 2023 4:59:55 PM
Entry #: 4353542
| You may have heard the quote, "procrastination is the thief of joy," and I couldn't agree more when it comes to managing your team.
Year-end playoffs preparations are vital in keeping your championship journey on track. First and foremost, it's crucial to organize your sits to take advantage of every possible option. Secondly, creating a stretching routine in vital for success. Brilliant!
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| Yaya
September 17, 2023 4:08:58 PM
Entry #: 4353561
| Elimination day starts Tuesday.
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| Rsave
September 18, 2023 2:54:10 PM
Entry #: 4353574
| The objective of this week is to avoid playing the Gregory team.
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| Birkey
September 19, 2023 5:36:44 AM
Entry #: 4353598
| Avoid PL in the older division.
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| Azzuri
September 20, 2023 1:54:11 PM
Entry #: 4353623
| Love could not beat School, enough said.
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| Ethos71
September 21, 2023 7:19:40 PM
Entry #: 4353642
| The crazy facts are, anyone can win.
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| L-- Dream
January 18, 2024 7:34:47 PM
Entry #: 4354836
| A batter hits a grounder. The fielder makes a bad throw to first and the runner (batter) unintentionally kicks the ball into right field before he gets to first base. What’s the call?
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| Fuel-U
January 19, 2024 11:37:29 AM
Entry #: 4354848
| The instance of a batter-runner being hit by a thrown ball is not interference (it's nothing – live ball, play on) unless the runner intentionally makes contact with the thrown ball or otherwise hinders or impedes a fielder's opportunity to field or throw the ball.
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| Woodsucks
January 21, 2024 3:04:52 PM
Entry #: 4354877
| I witnessed the play in question, it was a little more complicated than that. The ball was thrown poorly up the first baseline. The first baseman tried to field it but only got a glove on it. Both the fielder and runner were in very close proximity to the baseline. As the fielder tried to regain possession of the ball, the runner unintentionally kicked it into the outfield. Your answer may be the same but I’m curious.
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| bugatti
January 22, 2024 11:24:30 AM
Entry #: 4354881
| I agree with Fuel if in the umpires judgment the runner unintentionally kicked the ball I'd have no call play on.. what an umpire should also be watching for on a bad throw is obstruction by a fielder going after the bad throw and impeding the runner
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| Hellenistic
January 23, 2024 10:46:29 PM
Entry #: 4354898
| We've all had life changes, lost a step, or have aged out of the young man's game for some reason. Master ball is a gift because it allows us to continue our careers, build relationships, and not hobble off into retirement. If you care about this game you should leave it better than you found it. Too many have looked the other way on "self-repaired" bats. When you see or hear it live, you have an idea who is swinging altered equipment. Play fair.
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| Hellenistic
January 23, 2024 10:46:39 PM
Entry #: 4354899
| We've all had life changes, lost a step, or have aged out of the young man's game for some reason. Master ball is a gift because it allows us to continue our careers, build relationships, and not hobble off into retirement. If you care about this game you should leave it better than you found it. Too many have looked the other way on "self-repaired" bats. When you see or hear it live, you have an idea who is swinging altered equipment. Play fair.
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| JAG 28
January 24, 2024 4:42:40 PM
Entry #: 4354906
| Players found with "altered bats" should be suspended minimum 2 games. Subsequent more than 2 games.
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| Ponyview
January 25, 2024 7:25:47 PM
Entry #: 4354916
| Am I the only one who feels the stepping-out-of-the-box rule needs to be changed?
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| bigjohn21
January 26, 2024 11:30:48 AM
Entry #: 4354933
| With the way batter's boxes are painted on the orange stuff, the front of the box size changes constantly. Do you know what doesn't change?
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| Sultan of the swing
January 29, 2024 1:59:19 PM
Entry #: 4354961
| According to the rules for pitching that I've seen, *No “walking the box.” Pitcher must come set and pause facing batter with ball in front of body. Pitcher may take one step while keeping pivot foot in contact with pitcher’s box.**. yet when I bought this up to the umpire last year......... I was told it wasn't going to be called since the pitcher does it all the time and they didn't want to slow the games down and it would provide an unfair advantage to the other team since he can't pitch without walking? I expressed my displeasure but was told this was a decision made when another team complained. why have a rule if it won't be enforced?
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| Ouptire
January 31, 2024 2:10:55 PM
Entry #: 4354975
| This is very likely a situation of an umpire "..making it up on the fly.."
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| bugatti
February 1, 2024 6:22:55 PM
Entry #: 4354982
| Runner on first base. The batter hits a slow roller towards first base and the pitcher runs over and fields the ball. His throw to first is wide of the bag and slowly rolls out of the boundary line. At the time of the throw, the batter-runner was about 2/3 of the way to first. The runner who started on first is very fast and claims that since he was past 2nd base when the throw was made, he should be awarded two bases from that point and he is awarded home by the umpires. I believe that in this particular play, the umpires should have awarded the two bases based on the runners' positions at the time of the pitch. Therefore, the runner who started on first is advanced to 3rd base. Can I get a clarification?
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| bugatti
February 4, 2024 12:03:57 AM
Entry #: 4355007
| Two bases.
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| Kygell
February 5, 2024 11:37:19 PM
Entry #: 4355020
| Since the throw by the pitcher was the first play, I believe positioning reverts back to where base runners were at the time of the pitch. If an outfield throw goes into dead ball territory, decision is made based on where runners were at the time of the throw.
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| JAG 28
February 6, 2024 2:39:20 PM
Entry #: 4355026
| Sorry Kygell, it's 2 bases from the time of the pitch.
SPN Rulebook Section 7 - B "When a fair batted ball bounces, rolls into the stands or under the fence or other boundary 0f the playing field whether or not the ball is first touched by a player". EFFECT 7 - B "The ball is deemed dead, baserunners are awarded 2 BASES FROM THE LAST BASE HELD AT THE TIME OF THE PITCH".
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| Redkel1
February 9, 2024 9:13:37 AM
Entry #: 4355051
| Two bases is accurate.
Are we going with the 1-1 count this summer???
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| Eau55
February 12, 2024 7:16:22 AM
Entry #: 4355078
| I was not a fan of the 1/1 initially, but by June I LOVED it.
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| Dublinxx
February 14, 2024 6:15:41 AM
Entry #: 4355088
| We have to bring back the one and one.
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| Knight
February 26, 2024 3:17:30 AM
Entry #: 4355226
| The 1 and 1 count should not be debated.
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| une fois
March 6, 2024 4:37:31 PM
Entry #: 4355343
| 1/1 will get my vote
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| Yaya
May 11, 2024 4:41:53 PM
Entry #: 4356086
| Appreciate the correct answer to this question….,,
Bases loaded and no outs. One hopper hit to 3rd baseman who tags the runner that was is 3rd base (he was on the base yet while being tagged) and then steps on 3rd base after tagging the runner - is this a double play or is just the runner advancing from 2nd to 3rd out?
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| tuck00
May 12, 2024 7:30:09 AM
Entry #: 4356089
| DOUBLE PLAY ... The runner who was on 3rd base at the time of the pitch is required to vacate the base to clear for the runner from 2nd base advancing ... The 3rd base is NOT a safe haven when the runner is "forced" to advance ... By tagging that lead runner, the force play at 3rd base is preserved ... Stepping on the bag after the tag completes the double play ... It was a very heads-up defensive play by the third baseman.
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| JAG 28
May 12, 2024 1:51:38 PM
Entry #: 4356091
| Right00, Tuck00
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| Moulton
May 14, 2024 9:30:41 AM
Entry #: 4356107
| Definitely a double play. Mr. Tuck is correct, a base is not a safe haven when the runner is required to advance. Runner at third is forced out and the runner going to third from second is forced out. Had a similar play last summer. The runner thought the defense has to touch the next bag for him to be forced out. The ignorance of some people is amazing.
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| JAG 28
May 14, 2024 6:38:01 PM
Entry #: 4356112
| Wait till you see what happens when the "infield fly" rule is called and the defender unintentionally or intentially drops the ball.
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| Woodsucks
May 15, 2024 12:21:26 AM
Entry #: 4356119
| Clear double play. No explanation neccessary.
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| MI5
May 21, 2024 8:35:38 AM
Entry #: 4356179
| Is this a red flag or just a quirky preference?
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| Bigelow
May 22, 2024 7:12:31 PM
Entry #: 4356189
| It is a double play for sure.
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| Eden-xy
May 29, 2024 1:31:30 PM
Entry #: 4356233
| What are the rules regarding the last inning?
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