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TOPIC: What is the correct call? |
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| daump
November 25, 2024
11:57:26 PM
Entry #: 4357898
| Bases loaded, less than 2 outs
The bases are loaded with less than two outs. A ground ball is hit to the third baseman.
1) The third baseman touches the base and then tags the runner who was on third base, who is still touching the base.
2) The third baseman tags the runner who is touching the base and then steps on the base.
What is the result of both plays?
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| Birkey
November 26, 2024
8:03:05 AM
Entry #: 4357901
| Two outs in both situations.
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| Bigelow
November 26, 2024
4:14:08 PM
Entry #: 4357904
| If the 3B man on Gregory, it would be a triple play.
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| Yaya
November 27, 2024
12:52:16 AM
Entry #: 4357908
| Scenario 1)by touching the base first, the force is in effect and the runner come from second is out. The runner standing on third is safe because the force is no longer in effect for him and he doesn't have to go home.
Scenario 2) the runner is forced to go home as long as the force is in effect for him. By tagging the runner on third before stepping on third base, the runner on third is out because it is no longer his base, it's the guy coming from second base.
So tag the man on third, then step on third for a double play. The third basemen can then throw to second to force the guy coming from first or throw to first ahead of the batter for a triple play.
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| silverfox
November 27, 2024
7:01:23 AM
Entry #: 4357909
| 1). IF, 3B is touched first, the force is no-longer in play for the runner that was on third heading home. So, if 3B is touched first the runner does NOT have to leave the bag and will be safe even if touched while still on the bag
2). IF, the third baseman touches the runner on third first (Even if he is still touching 3b) the runner will be OUT and the force play at 3B will still be in play.
Result: DOUBLE PLAY
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| Duchy
November 27, 2024
2:11:11 PM
Entry #: 4357911
| He might be correct, but only if the runner who started on 3rd base had crossed the commitment line on the way home before the throw there from the third baseman to the catcher ... If that runner stayed put or did NOT cross the commitment line, the fielder stepping on 3rd base took the force play off and that runner does NOT have to advance, nor can he be retired on a force play ... Double play is my call, unless the unlikely commitment line theory is actually a factual occurrence ...
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| Nano
November 27, 2024
5:49:10 PM
Entry #: 4357913
| There is a hit and a runner runs toward the scoring line. There is no play at home, but the runner stops short of the scoring line and goes into the dugout. Should the umpire have called him out when he left the field of play or is this an appeal play? Thank you.
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| Eden-xy
November 27, 2024
7:45:59 PM
Entry #: 4357914
| The runner is out.
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| Green Balls
November 28, 2024
6:28:46 AM
Entry #: 4357918
| You got to cross the line, 199% out.
The first scenario is a triple play.
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| Bud Wiser
November 29, 2024
12:52:49 PM
Entry #: 4357930
| We need to review the ability and have a general moratorium on some rules like the 1-1 count. It should be implemented for all three divisions.
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| Eau55
December 1, 2024
8:35:43 AM
Entry #: 4357958
| Nano, if the runner leaves the field and enters the dugout he should be called out immediately.. no appeal is necessary
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| Empress Ruler
December 2, 2024
10:43:14 AM
Entry #: 4357963
| Why would anyone not cross the line? This guy is not too bright.
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| Faux
December 2, 2024
5:11:35 PM
Entry #: 4357966
| Bases loaded no outs
Batter hits one hopper to third
Third baseman throws to second for 1
Relay to first batter runner is safe
Play is over. One run in, one out, runners on 1st and 3rd
Or is the play over? The rep of defensive team comes out right away and claims runner on first batted out of order. We checked the official book and indeed he did bat out of order.
How would you rule on this?
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| Network Man
December 3, 2024
11:05:08 AM
Entry #: 4357969
| I think the only OUT is the out of Order batter.
1 out. All runners return to their base (1st and 3rd). Correct hitter is at bat.
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| 5Tools
December 3, 2024
1:46:57 PM
Entry #: 4357970
| the out isn't recorded on the batter who batted out of order it goes to the batter that should have legally batted.. the result is 1 out all runners return to their original bases and the batter who follows the batter that should have batted is up to bat.. even if it's the batter that batted out of order originally
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| Cashman
December 5, 2024
12:09:19 AM
Entry #: 4357977
| You have an out at second base, plus an out on the batter who failed to bat. All other runners return to the base occupied at the time of the pitch. (Only the advancement of runners is nullified any outs made by the defense stand.) So runners on second and third with two outs.
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| silverfox
December 5, 2024
5:28:00 AM
Entry #: 4357978
| The protest has to happen before the next pitch..if the runner on first is the one that batted out of order and the play was protested after pitch was thrown ..the results on the batted ball remain.
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| HanktheShank
December 5, 2024
11:42:21 AM
Entry #: 4357980
| I was told to me by an league umpire the reason for the rule about a runner getting hit by a batted ball was because in slowpitch softball a runner had to stay on the base until the ball was hit. Now if that is the reason not sure but it does make sense.
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| Bud Wiser
December 7, 2024
1:09:28 AM
Entry #: 4358014
| We have great umpires in this league. Cheers!
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| MI5
December 8, 2024
4:17:26 PM
Entry #: 4358017
| I agree!
Well done lads.
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| Nano
December 9, 2024
7:17:07 PM
Entry #: 4358024
| Our guys respect the players and are not anxious to get on a power trip.
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| Green Balls
December 10, 2024
9:53:21 PM
Entry #: 4358029
| Our umpires are damn good umpires. Our umpires get a lot of flak....some totally unwarranted too...but here’s is a guy who’s right up there with the best in the province. Let’s acknowledge and appreciate that as a fact.
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| Hat0man
December 11, 2024
3:23:38 PM
Entry #: 4358032
| If the umpire has called four balls or issued a walk, all runners must touch all bases in order. If the bases are loaded, the fifth run is on third, and the walked batter goes into the dugout rather than touching first base, does any rule cover sending the walked batter from the dugout area back out to first base? i.e. When is it too late to send the runner to first base?
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| In Telle
December 11, 2024
3:53:29 PM
Entry #: 4358033
| once the batter enters the dugout he has been determined to have abandoned his base running duties and should be called out immediately and all runners are to be returned to the base they were on prior to the walk
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| bugatti
December 12, 2024
7:51:25 PM
Entry #: 4358039
| The lesson here is to "run" everything out...always! It is not that difficult to show those in attendance a little effort. Maybe the "youth" watching can continue to learn some new tricks from us old dogs :)
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| Anchor
December 13, 2024
11:23:11 AM
Entry #: 4358049
| Great advice from an old dog.
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| Dublinxx
December 13, 2024
12:04:38 PM
Entry #: 4358051
| A different spin on the question: Batter will need a courtesy runner if he reaches base. The batter walks on four pitches, as he is walking to first, the first base coach is announced as the courtesy runner and takes his position on the base before the batter gets there.
Batter never took his place at first. The umpire ruled that the courtesy runner illegally entered the game and declared an out.
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| HR Leader
December 15, 2024
1:04:13 AM
Entry #: 4358072
| Chipper Jones was my favourite player growing up. Lefty hitter like him. I took his swing in peewee still have the same bat waggle and toe tap in men’s league slo pitch.
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| Eau55
December 16, 2024
6:13:43 AM
Entry #: 4358077
| What are your thoughts when the umpire apologizes for a missed call later in the game??
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| JAG 28
December 16, 2024
1:44:58 PM
Entry #: 4358080
| E55: even umps are human, good for him.
We all make mistakes/errors don't we?
No mistake MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR.
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| Moulton
December 16, 2024
8:12:28 PM
Entry #: 4358082
| No prob with the basic philosophy that everyone makes an error, but they don’t have to admit it. It just infuriated the boys, especially after a loss.
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| Local 1134
December 17, 2024
3:33:42 PM
Entry #: 4358086
| no need to tell guys ya made a bad call
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| Fureza
December 18, 2024
7:51:44 PM
Entry #: 4358094
| No need to tell the player after the fact, shows your insecurity.
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| daump
December 19, 2024
11:46:19 PM
Entry #: 4358101
| A good umpire is approachable, is a good listener, and can assess and react to the various personalities of the few fans in the stands and players he will deal with during a game.
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| LB4LB
December 20, 2024
6:39:45 PM
Entry #: 4358127
| Nothing wrong with blue, consoling in a player after he has made a mistake.
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| Tuyuvu
December 21, 2024
11:23:20 PM
Entry #: 4358133
| Make the call and stay firm with the call.
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