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| Cindy
October 7, 2012
11:49:31 AM
Entry #: 3989890
| In a 12U game this weekend, the 9th batter came up to bat, when it was the 8th batter's turn. We realized it after there was a pitch. The umpire declared the batter out for batting out of order. Since it was the third out, the inning was over. The following inning, the 8th batter got up to bat, a pitch was thrown, but we thought that didn't seem correct. The opposing coach said that's who the ump said should be batting. The ump thought about it and said he'd made a mistake and that the 10th batter should be up. So up went the 10th batter with no count. Shouldn't the 9th batter been the one to bat first in the inning because the 8th batter would've been the one declared out for not batting the prior inning?
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| OPA UMP
October 8, 2012
9:57:02 AM
Entry #: 3990218
| Cindy,
Since the turn at bat was not completed, no harm no foul. The correct batter should have come up to bat and started with whatever count the incorrect batter had. No outs should have been recorded. If the batter had completed the at bat and it was appealed prior to the next pitch, legal or illegal an out would be recorded.
1. If the batter had made an out, the out would stand and the correct batter would be called out. In your case it would be a 4 out inning, and might affect runs scored during that at bat.
2. If the batter/runner made it to base safely and appealed prior to the next pitch, legal or illegal, the correct batter/runner would be declared out, all runners return, and the next batter would be up. In your case, Batter 8 would be declared out and batter 9 would be the next legal batter. Since it would be the 3rd out, 9 would lead off the next inning.
3. If no appeal was made until the 1st pitch to batter 10, #9 would be considered legal and batter 10 the correct batter.
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| Cindy
October 9, 2012
6:37:45 PM
Entry #: 3991000
| OPA Ump,
Suppose there had only been one out and we waited until B9's turn was over and she'd singled and then appealed before the next pitch...B8 would be declared out for the batting out of order. Any advance of runners would be nullified. So B9's single wouldn't count, right? So then would be B9 go back up to the plate and bat again?
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| hank
October 11, 2012
10:12:02 AM
Entry #: 3991655
| Opa is correct. When discovered, correct batter, 8th in lineup would assume the first pitch count.Up to 3 and 2 count correct batter can take thier at bat when discoverd that wrong batter is up.
When discovered after at bat and before next pitch, correct batter is always called out correct batter now goes to bat.
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| hank
October 12, 2012
9:41:02 AM
Entry #: 3992072
| clarifying my reply.
if batting out of turn and discovered after the incorrect batter finishes the turn at bat - the batter who should have batted is out not the batter who batted out of turn. The single would have been nullified and any runner or runners returned to thier prior base or bases. If any outs occured because of this at bat, they would count along with calling the batter out who should have batted.If discovered after the next pitch,all play stands and it would make the incorrect batter now the correct batter and the batter following this batter in line-up now the next correct batter.
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