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TOPIC: Run Score? |
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| neal
September 4, 2015
8:41:09 AM
Entry #: 4180727
| R2 on 2nd R1 on 1st and two outs. Ground ball to f6. Runners are off with the pitch. Throw goes to 1st for the third out. R1 rounds third and continues on to home and touches the plate. Defense is still on the field and offense comes out to appeal for a pulled foot. Foot was pulled and the call was reversed. Does the run count?
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| Greg
September 5, 2015
9:41:26 PM
Entry #: 4180844
| As it turns out, it was not a force out, therefore the run scores.
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| RKB
September 6, 2015
6:16:21 AM
Entry #: 4180867
| Put the runner back at 3rd and do not count the run. The reversal of the call put the defense in jeopardy. The out call at 1st was the 3rd out of the inning, there was no reason for the defense to attempt to make a play on the runner advancing home. ASA 10-3-C, The plate umpire may rectify any situation in which the reversal of an umpires decision or a delayed call by an umpire puts a batter/runner, runner, or the defense in jeopardy.
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| Arthur
September 7, 2015
11:37:26 AM
Entry #: 4180922
| This post got me thinking and if interprete the last response correctly it should be the umpires judgement concerning where to put the runners if the baserunner was immediately called safe.You could have both base runners not touching a base because of the batter being called out. Also, I believe that this should only apply if there were two outs at the time of the appeal.
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| Hank
September 22, 2015
8:12:44 PM
Entry #: 4182603
| Don't need a ASA rule to cover this. Appeal by offense on pulled foot. If field umpire goes to plate umpire who now has a pulled foot on runner at first, runner safe and all play stands -two outs.. No other details what happened to this runner before or after appeal, so can not rule on anything else.
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| RKB
September 23, 2015
9:38:11 AM
Entry #: 4182659
| So if the trail runner had also come all the way around and touched home plate prior to the offensive coach requesting the umpires confer you would count that run also? The defense had absolutely no reason to attempt to make a play on the runner from 2nd advancing home as the 3rd out had been called at 1st, There is little if any chance of a runner at 2nd scoring on an infield ground ball out at 1st base. The reversal of the umpires out call at 1st put the defense in jeopardy and the runners should be placed back at 3rd and 2nd.
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| hank
September 23, 2015
11:22:15 AM
Entry #: 4182680
| yes all runs would count because third out was not recorded.
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| RKB
September 23, 2015
12:07:37 PM
Entry #: 4182689
| Im sorry, but that is just not correct umpiring or procedure. 10-3-C specifically states the umpire should correct any situation that puts either team in jeopardy by a delayed or reversal of the call. Again, the defense has absolutely no reason to continue to attempt to get outs after the 3rd out has been called. The umpire CANNOT allow runs to score after the umpires incorrect or reversed call is what scored those runs.
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| neal
September 23, 2015
2:59:58 PM
Entry #: 4182710
| I happen to agree with RKB in this instance, if the runner instead of running home happens to hit 3rd base and then sees the girl get thrown out at first base before the appeal. Where would you put the runner if she happened to go into the dugout and get her mitt to play defense thinking that was the 3rd out. You would put her back on 3rd base.
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